Matthias Wimmer schreef:
Sander Devrieze schrieb:
Add a note to the old website saying "This project is abandoned and
unmaintained. <b>No security fixes or patches will be made!</b> Please
strongly consider switching to a <a href="http://some_page_on
xmpp.*_that_lists_all_maintained_XMPP_servers"> maintained XMPP
server</a>."

Well there are security fixes for jabberd2 and Tomasz does release them
(beside other work he does on the code). Why should we than not link to
Tomasz' site?

Yes, that's also fine. But you still have a problem when Tomasz eventually stops with his jabberd2 developement, like what happened with jabberd2 and WPJabber in the past. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]: do you still work on WPJabber?)

Linking to a complete server list will suggest a user,
that he has to switch to another software product, which is not true.

I think a list with *active* XMPP server projects (and lists of clients and libraries!) would be a great thing to add on the xmpp.* website. In that way people for example easilty can see that jabberd14 is still an active project and not replaced by jabberd2.

Requirements of such a list:
* formalised process to get and maintain a high quality list
* the project owner(s) should request the listing of their project
* the project owner(s) should ping regulary that they are alive and have time for the project * the list should contain all multiple contact channels to get in touch with the project * link to the code of the project of it is open source, or to the binaries if it is freeware (it would be a nice feature if the XSF would make regular backups) * end users should be able to complain when an inactive project is still listed, of course they should be able to prove this and the complaint is forwarded to the project owner(s) * inactive projects will be moved to another list with an explanation why (ith optional notes of the previous project owner(s)). This list of abandoned projects should make it easier for people to take over maintainorship of a project (for example, people that want to write new software instead of contributing to an existing project, because they really want to be the boss). This idea also applies to commercial closed source projects; if a company goes bankrupt and it cannot find someone to buy the codebase it can add a message to that page so that companies can contact someone to buy the code, or so that people can buy free the code (cfr. Blender).

Advantages of such list would be:
* Market transparency improves (end users): choosing good XMPP software will become easier, less risky, and thus cheaper. This will allow the XMPP community to steal market share from big non-XMPP vendors who are chosen for this reason. * Easier re-use of abandonned code (new contributors): see previous paragraph. This will result in less, but higher quality projects, and thus will improve the XMPP brand to the outside world. * Stronger community (community): I guess most XMPP projects will be eager to link to and promote such high quality list(s) of compatible projects.

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Mvg, Sander Devrieze.

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