On 3/13/09 4:21 AM, Pedro Melo wrote: > On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> On 3/12/09 11:24 AM, Pedro Melo wrote: >>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Justin Karneges wrote: >>> >>>> The big question of all is whether it is the job of jabber.org to >>>> compete with >>>> Skype. Aren't there others in this space already trying to do >>>> that? If >>>> jabber.org is truly competitive, and no longer a self-defeating >>>> reference >>>> service, is it still fair to use the "Jabber" name? Peter, you may >>>> remember, >>>> one of the options we discussed was to actually get rid of >>>> jabber.org >>>> entirely. ;-) >>> I don't think its the role of jabber.org to compete direcly with >>> Skype. >>> >>> But there are certain services that would make the network better >>> (like a network of sock5 proxys, and all the NAT-busting stuff) that >>> require some form of central coordination, and that fits perfectly >>> for >>> jabber.org. >>> >>> As for the IM service, I would keep it running and continue to accept >>> new users as the "backup route for new jabber users": if they are not >>> introduced to a more local jabber service then you can always have >>> Jabber.org. >> Look, if we don't do it nobody will. Much as I like the folks who work >> on services like Google Talk and Nimbuzz and SAPO (etc.), they need to >> justify their services to people at their companies. That means they >> try >> to funnel users to their domains. It's not in their interest to run an >> open infrastructure for IM / file transfer / voice / video. Whether we >> call it "Jabber" or "FreeTalk" or something else doesn't matter. (I >> rather like "FreeTalk", myself.) The point is that we have the >> chance to >> federate with all those other services but also offer something more >> open. > > I missed something. I think we are agreeing, right? > > I do agree that the IM service should continue.
Yes, we are in violent agreement. Your message was the one I found most quickly to reply to Justin. :) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
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