Hi all,
>From Tim's question, I perceive a concern about careers in IT. I have been
a developer, designer, analyst, and instructor for both legacy and
object-oriented languages. The "real world" is NOT driven be your skill as
a coder. It is driven by how well you understand the business problem, how
creatively you apply your skills to that problem, and your ability to focus
on solving the problem.
As I have told student at both CSC and Sun, "it is not the language, since
any computer can only do basic tasks organized by the language you are
using. It is how seriously you apply yourself to the task that will
determine your success."
Take this advice from someone working nearly 30 years in IT. Anyone can
master a skill, even a complex IT skill. The magic is in how you apply what
you have learned.
If you enjoy the challenge, you can be a success in IT. If solving problems
without regard to how we used to do it is your enjoyment. Then a career in
IT is for you.
If you are lazy and want things handed to you, then IT will be an unhappy
place for you.
Sincerely,
Steve Gawron
Still loving IT for nearly 30 years!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:37 PM
Subject: [jdjlist] concerned
> I just wanted to pose a question that has just come to my attention and
> concerns me quite a bit:-
>
> I yesterday posed a question to a java email list, asking what sort of
code
> is dealt with
> "in the real world" and whether I would be able to manage and understand
it.
> This is very importnat to me cos I want to know whether I am able to have
a
> successful career in software engineering. So whether or not you are able
to
> understand and deal with the sort of code that you are going to be seeing
> "in the real world"
> for me would seem to be an important indicator of whether you would be
able
> to have a successful career in the IT industry or not.
>
> Would it be fair to say that if you are able to understand stuff that you
> would be doing in Griffith subjects like :-
> 1) Software Engineering I
> 2) Software Engineering 2
> 3) Programming 3
>
> that you would be equipped to have a successful career in the IT industry
?
>
> This is just a problem that is constantly at the back of my mind :-
whether
> I will be able to succeed
> in the IT industry ie whether I will be able to understand and deal with
the
> sort of code that I would be dealing with in "the real world" ?
>
> And related to that I guess, is how close is the stuff that you learn in
> subjects like the ones mentioned above, to the stuff that you would be
doing
> in the real world ?
>
> I am just sort of worried as to whether I would be able to understand code
> in java or C or C++ when it gets more complex ?
>
> I know I am asking this as someone who is really just a beginner at the
java
> language as well as at C or C++.
>
> I am just scared as to whether I would be able to deal with code when it
> gets more complicated ?
>
> It's just a worry that I have ?
>
> I have managed to solve a few of the sort of exercises that beginners get
> and I am very happy about that.
>
> I am just constantly worried that at some stage, most likely when you get
> into industry, that the java code would become too complex ? Or that at
some
> stage I would not be able to understand it ?
>
> I am trying to gain some self-confidence that I would be able to have a
> successful career as a software engineer. And I am trying to knock off
this
> little devil on my shoulder that says "things are at some stage gonna get
> too difficult ie the java syntax is going to become too complicated".
>
> Can you answer these questions ?
>
> Will I be able to manage or not ? And perhaps this is difficult to answer
> cos I am only at the beginning stage ?
>
> Perhaps the best thing to do to try to answer this sort of question is to
> give examples of the sort of code that you are likely to encounter in the
> industry ?
>
> I have also found 3 journals :-
> 1) C/C++ Users Journal
> 2) Java Users Journal
> 3) Javaworld magazine
>
> If I am able to understand the sort of stuff that goes on in these, as
well
> as perhaps the subjects at Griffith that I eluded to before (SE1, SE2,
> Programming 3), would that be a fair indicator that I will be able to
> succeed ?
>
> So in answer to this question that I posed on this java email list, I got
> the following example of java code :-
>
> ================================================================
> package com.buyformetals.categorytemplates;
>
> import java.io.File;
> import java.net.URL;
> import java.net.MalformedURLException;
> import java.util.ResourceBundle;
> import java.util.PropertyResourceBundle;
>
> public class CatalogParserResources
> {
> private final static String propertiesFilename = "CatalogParser";
>
> private static boolean initialized = false;
>
> public static String PROTOCOL = null;
> public static String HOST = null;
>
> public static String OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = null;
> public static String OUTPUT_PATH = null;
> public static String OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX = null;
>
> public static URL PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_CHECKLIST_XSL = null;
> public static URL PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_INTERNAL_XSL = null;
> public static URL CHECKLIST_2_FULL_REPORT_XSL = null;
> public static URL CHECKLIST_2_PARTIAL_REPORT_XSL = null;
> public static URL INTERNAL_2_DML_XSL = null;
> public static URL INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_PART_1_XSL = null;
> public static URL INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_PART_2_XSL = null;
> public static URL INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_UNINSTALL_XSL = null;
>
> public static String JDBC_DRIVER = null;
> public static String JDBC_CONNECTION_SID = null;
> public static String JDBC_CONNECTION_USER = null;
> public static String JDBC_CONNECTION_PASSWORD = null;
>
> public static String SQL_STATEMENT_UOM = null;
> public static String SQL_STATEMENT_LDD = null;
>
> public static void init()
> {
> if (initialized)
> return;
>
> // Retrieve information from properties file
> PropertyResourceBundle prop = (PropertyResourceBundle)
> ResourceBundle.getBundle(propertiesFilename);
>
> PROTOCOL = prop.getString("PROTOCOL");
> HOST = prop.getString("HOST");
>
> String appUrl = prop.getString("APPLICATION_URL");
> if (appUrl.charAt(appUrl.length()-1) != '/')
> appUrl = appUrl + "/";
>
> String xslUrlPrefix = appUrl + prop.getString("XSL_DIRECTORY");
> if (xslUrlPrefix.charAt(xslUrlPrefix.length()-1) != '/')
> xslUrlPrefix = xslUrlPrefix + "/";
>
> OUTPUT_DIRECTORY = prop.getString("OUTPUT_DIRECTORY");
> OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX = appUrl + OUTPUT_DIRECTORY;
> if (OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX.charAt(OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX.length()-1) != '/')
> OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX = OUTPUT_URL_PREFIX + "/";
>
> File outputDir = new
> File(prop.getString("APPLICATION_PATH"),prop.getString("OUTPUT_DIRECTORY
> "));
> if (! outputDir.exists())
> outputDir.mkdir();
> OUTPUT_PATH = outputDir.getPath();
>
> try
> {
> PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_CHECKLIST_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_CHECKLIST"));
> PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_INTERNAL_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_PRODUCT_CATALOG_2_BFM_INTERNAL"));
> CHECKLIST_2_FULL_REPORT_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_CHECKLIST_2_FULL_REPORT"));
> CHECKLIST_2_PARTIAL_REPORT_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_CHECKLIST_2_PARTIAL_REPORT"));
> INTERNAL_2_DML_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_BFM_INTERNAL_2_DML"));
> INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_PART_1_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_BFM_INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_CLASSES"));
> INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_PART_2_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_BFM_INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_EVVS"));
> INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_UNINSTALL_XSL = new
> URL(PROTOCOL,HOST,xslUrlPrefix +
> prop.getString("XSL_BFM_INTERNAL_2_DBLOAD_UNINSTALL"));
> }
> catch (MalformedURLException e)
> {
> System.err.println("Exception creating XSL URL's: " +
> e.getMessage());
> }
>
> JDBC_DRIVER = prop.getString("JDBC_DRIVER");
> JDBC_CONNECTION_SID = prop.getString("JDBC_CONNECTION_SID");
> JDBC_CONNECTION_USER = prop.getString("JDBC_CONNECTION_USER");
> JDBC_CONNECTION_PASSWORD =
> prop.getString("JDBC_CONNECTION_PASSWORD");
>
> SQL_STATEMENT_UOM = prop.getString("SQL_STATEMENT_UOM");
> SQL_STATEMENT_LDD = prop.getString("SQL_STATEMENT_LDD");
>
> initialized = true;
> }
> }
>
> =================================================================
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:11 AM
> Subject: [jdjlist] Re: /
>
>
> >
> > ||| I do not see it that way at all.
> >
> > okay ... then i wish you all the success ... because ... judging from
the
> > posts ... your going to need it!
> >
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