Joe ... completely disagree with this RANT ... 100% First of all ... Cross Platform. I think we all gave up on this goal many years ago. Including Sun actually. They no longer promote this. Its not WriteOnceRunAnywhere. The new phrase, is WriteOnceDeployAnywhere. Christ, even in the J2EE space, its darn near impossible to write a WAR/EAR that can simply be dropped into a J2EE server without some/little tweeking.
You are making some major assumptions here! Running slow! Who says? JEdit is basically shipped as a Windows .EXE; its merely a stub; so the application is still running inside a JVM, its just that all is managed for you. And why not? Since Sun fell out with Microsoft, we can't assume there is a JVM available and we have to take that into account. The JVM is a virus! I have at least 4 on my PC; where the one is only required. But every major App vendor, decides, they had better ship their own, just incase one isn't there! So if someone is making life easier with these 'stubbing' programs; then hell, they get my vote. Doesn't make it run any slower. I am thinking your knowledge is based on the old Borland JBuilder days; but a lot has happenned since then. [ps just read your previous post thats come in ... sorry you've lost me on the IMPOSSIBLE paragraph, absolutely no idea where you are going there] ||| -----Original Message----- ||| From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ||| Sent: 24 November 2002 13:35 ||| To: JDJList ||| Subject: [jdjlist] Re: Creating tabs and javascript ||| ||| ||| Well, hopefully this will fulfil your desire of galvanizing ||| those of us ||| who actually use java the way it's meant to be used, cross-platform ||| deployable. Unfortunately, the message and usefulness of ||| cross-platform ||| compatibility and development seems to be vastly undersung ||| by those who've ||| not used it or needed it, so we have platform-specific java ||| "executables," ||| basically slow versions of what could be tuned for the platforms in ||| question. Wow. No wonder people think Java is slow... they ||| use it in bad ||| ways on limited platforms. Pardon my bitterness, but ||| helping them do this ||| does NOT help Java as a whole in any way, and enabling ||| people to walk into ||| a ditch STILL LEAVES THEM IN A DITCH. ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________
