Thanks Paolo,

I am glad you agree. 

I have currently nothing to reproduce issue 143 other than my own tests. 
I'll try to do something about this.
 As for 131, you can simply adopt the instrumentation I gave in the WI and 
see for yourself when running multiple queries/writes (at least 10 threads 
should do the job) that you run into issues.

Can you give that a try? Should be straightforward

Thanks

Simon



From:
Paolo Castagna <[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]
Date:
11/04/2011 12:40 PM
Subject:
Re: What are the JIRA issues to fix before a release?



Hi Simon

Simon Helsen wrote:
> Paolo,
> 
> you cannot expect that bug reports always have a test case demonstrating 

> the problem. 

Yes.

Not expecting anything, just asking politely: any help is appreciated.

> That is not a reasonable expectation given that we are not 
> using Jena in a vanilla stand-alone manner, but integrate it a complex 
> piece of proprietary software. 

Ack.

> I provided quite a few detailest in 131 and 
> I would hope that if you take the defect serious, you investigate the 
> information I provided. 

Yes.

None of the options I listed ignored JENA-131 or JENA-143.

I know it takes a lot of time and effort to produce a test to help
us in replicating the problem (and this is particularly true in case
of problems related to concurrency), but from the past bugs, once a
test case showing an issue is provided, bugs are fixed quite fast.

So, any help in making the issues described in JENA-131 and JENA-143
reproducible with some code we can run is really valuable and welcome.

Paolo

> 
> thanks
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
> From:
> Paolo Castagna <[email protected]>
> To:
> [email protected]
> Date:
> 11/04/2011 10:17 AM
> Subject:
> Re: What are the JIRA issues to fix before a release?
> 
> 
> 
> Simon Helsen wrote:
>> I would like to see both
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-131
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-143
>>
>> resolved
>>
>> I provided input for 131 - I still have to try to produce a test-case 
> for 
>> 143, but depending on the origin of 131, it may be connected to the 
>> problem in 143
> 
> Hi Simon
> 
> One option in relation to JENA-131 and JENA-143, since they do not have
> a test case we can use to reproduce the problem at the moment, we could
> decide to release TDB anyway and, as soon as the bug becomes 
reproducible,
> we fix it and we can release a bug fix release x.y.(z+1).
> 
> Another option is: we release all the Jena modules but TDB. For TDB we
> produce a candidate release and wait a little bit more to push that out
> to see if we can reproduce the problem (and fix it). However, in this
> case Fuseki (and LARQ) will also be impacted.
> 
> This way, neither JENA-131 or JENA-143 would be blockers for our first
> Apache Jena release.
> 
> I would not propose this normally and absolutely not if there were an
> open bug with a test case to reliably reproduce it.
> 
> Any help in writing a test case to reproduce the problem is certainly
> appreciated. Thanks again for your feedback on JENA-131 and JENA-143.
> 
> Paolo
> 
>> thanks
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:
>> Paolo Castagna <[email protected]>
>> To:
>> [email protected]
>> Date:
>> 11/04/2011 09:21 AM
>> Subject:
>> What are the JIRA issues to fix before a release?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> today, I have time to work on Jena.
>>
>> What are the JIRA issues to fix before a release?
>>
>> Paolo
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 



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