I'm more conservative with my concept for the September plan.  I think we 
should change the base images to Java 11 but don't need to make any 
decision related to Java 8.

We'll discuss further in the Platform SIG meeting today

On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 9:58:21 AM UTC-6 Michael Cirioli wrote:

> Adding my $.02 ....
>
> I am in support of making java11, and would like to help move this 
> forward.  It is great that there is now an admin monitor which should help 
> raise awareness (and appetite) , but what other actionable items need to 
> happen?  
>
> - communicate plan to address remaining java11 issues
> - update docker images to default to java11
> - determine how long java8 will remain supported and communicate
> - (?) make a decision on when we can start targeting `java.level=11`
>
> I am sure there are a number of things i am not thinking of, but since i 
> don't hear any strong objections I'd love to make this happen.  
>
> -mike cirioli
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:42:07 PM UTC-4 timja...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The docs on Jenkins.Io, dockerhub and in the docker GitHub repo were all 
>> updated to use the jdk11 variant but the latest image tag isn’t changed yet 
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 15:03, Slide <slide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Mark was looking at doing the migration in September if I 
>>> remember correctly. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:20 AM 'Olblak' via Jenkins Developers <
>>> jenkin...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What the current state here?
>>>> Looks like the docker image still use java 8 by default but the helm 
>>>> chart switched to java 11
>>>>
>>>> Should we talk about switching to java11 by default during the 
>>>> contributor summit?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 15:47:41 UTC+2 timja...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What metric would people consider? 
>>>>>
>>>>> 0? Few new issues? From personal experience on Java 11 I have never 
>>>>> hit the above issues (apart from illegal reflective access log messages) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Query I used to look:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-64831?filter=22940&jql=labels%20in%20(java11-compatibility)%20and%20resolution%20is%20EMPTY
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 13:31, Jesse Glick <jgl...@cloudbees.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 4:10 AM Tim Jacomb <timja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> encourage existing users to migrate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feels a bit premature when the list of `java11-compatibility` issues 
>>>>>> still includes bugs in core and widely used plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (The only ones I have personal experience with are JENKINS-61212 
>>>>>> <https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-61212>, which should only 
>>>>>> affect users terminating TLS in Jenkins, rather than a reverse 
>>>>>> proxy/ingress which I suppose is more customary; and JENKINS-57139 
>>>>>> <https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-57139> which affects the 
>>>>>> GUI agent installers that would be lightly deprecated in JEP-230 but for 
>>>>>> now remain in core.)
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