Nine year lease is pretty arbitrary. Originally I thought of a 99 year lease, but in internet speed that seemed a too long. After the 9 years (or whatever), perpetual renewal would probably be important. No I wouldn't charge after the original term...that's contrary to the spirit of this.
I'm not sure why sourceforge is a more appealing option? It's VA's commercial endeavor. It's already well established I guess is the appeal. I think I'd rather use David's server in that case, since at least the list would not be locked into the structure or any limitations/features of sourceforge. Any changes or enhancements that the list felt important could be implemented - more easily by asking David than asking SF (IMHO.) And we would not have to look at SF's banner ad's ;) I do like the suggestion of portletcatalog.apache.org. As well, I agree any result from the discussion should have ASF's buy-in. -----Original Message----- From: Serge Huber2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:46 AM To: Jetspeed Developers List Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Contributed portlets page Well is it just me or is "Portlet Catalog" not the first term that comes to mind when thinking about a portlet repository ? Anyway, is this should be an Apache-supported effort I think it should be anyway under an *.apache.org domain, such as portlets.apache.org or something like that. If it's just a reference to an external repository, other alternatives are available such as portlets.sourceforge.net (was at the time of this writing :)) javaportlets.sourceforge.net etc... And in your proposal, what would happen when the 9 year lease ends ? You pull the plug ? The foundation gets a bill ? I perfectly understand the commercial proposition here, I'm just not sure if it's the foundation's policy to get involved in such arrangements, and looking back it doesn't seem like they have done so very often. Regards, Serge Huber. At 00:10 27.07.2003 -0400, you wrote: >I've got these domain names: > portlet-catalog.org > portlet-catalogue.org > portletcatalog.com > portletcatalog.net > portletcatalog.org > portletcatalogue.org > theportletcatalog.com > theportletcatalog.net > theportletcatalog.org > theportletcatalogue.org > >I had reservations about mentioning them on the jetspeed-list since I had >plans to sell advertising on the site(s). >My idea for the site(s) was: > 1) Searchable catalog of portlets - vendor neutral (Sun, IBM, Oracle, >Jetspeed, etc) > 2) Articles about portlet development > 3) Listings of java portal containers... eventually only JSR-168 >compatible ones. > >My hope was to keep the site running based on advertising from commercial >portlet providers. >I was thinking of allowing free posting for free portlets, and charging a >fee for portlets that >are not free. Also allowing for rating of portlets, etc. >Something a`la: Macromedia's tag gallery or rather Exchanges as they are now >called. >http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#loc=en_us&view=sn100&v i >ewName=Exchange > >I don't want upset people who will be offended by the commercial >aspect/aspirations here, >perhaps there is a compromise where I could agree to allow jetspeed usuage >of the >*.org domain names above in such a way that I can still persue my ideas with >the other domains? >Perhaps it could be the same site(s) except the .org version is not >commercialized. >I would also want to be able to keep the .org and the not .org sites >roughly the same >look-and-feel and features if possible. Ideally they would be identical >sites, just one >with and one without adverstising etc. > >I'm thinking something like donating a 9 year lease for the domain names? >Jetspeed is not really an entity.. so I guess any agreement would have to be >with ASF? > >I figured I'd post this out on the list despite the threat that now anyone >could "rip-off" >the idea. I don't see this as my ticket to retirement, but it would be nice >if I could >pick up some additional $'s and help the js portal community at the same >time. > >I'm posting this after seeing David's last post about the server offer to >see >what people's opinions are. I think if people find it not altogether >offensive, then >we'd be two big steps closer to having a portlet area for jetspeed 2. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:04 PM >To: Jetspeed Developers List >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Contributed portlets page > > > >On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 07:49 AM, Jeremy Ford wrote: > > > I'm +1 to adding a page to the Jetspeed site with links to other > > portlets. > > This will at least let people know that there are other portlets out > > there > > other than the ones Jetspeed provides. > > > > I like the idea of Jetspeed being self hosted. While Apache may not > > be the > > host of a portlet catalog, perhaps Jetspeed could interact with one. I > > think it would be cool if you could browse a portlet catalog from a > > installed Jetspeed and be able to dynamically install portlets from it. > > Just one of my dreams to go along with Mark's. :) > > > Jeremy Ford > > > >Has anyone inquired to see if Apache allows for running application >servers at their site? >It seems kind of strange that they wouldn't support such a thing. > >If Apache wants no part of it, I'd be glad to donate a server to run it >on. > >I think its worth asking Apache first. >Just beware of the bureaucracy,.. > >-- >David Sean Taylor >Bluesunrise Software >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >+01 707 773-4646 > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
