Hello,
Could you describe the events which led to your system crashing. For
example, Did WE load , then you opened IE, or some other program. Or did you
open WE, and bingo, your system powered down.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Anne Atkinson via Jfw" <[email protected]>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
I too tried installing Window Eyes on my Windows 7 desktop, on which I also
have JAWS. It crashed my computer multiple times and I finally ended up
uninstalling it. I know other people use it successfully but am not sure
if
it is just Jaws, which I had turned off, and a Window Eyes conflict or
something else.
Has anyone else been able to install Window Eyes and JAWS on the same
computer without crashing?
Lee Anne
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
Just as a point of information with no judgment intended, I recently
purchased Office 2013 and thought I'd take advantage of the free Window
Eyes
offer to take it for a test drive. Aside from the fact I found the command
structure rather confusing, window eyes consistently crashed my laptop.
This
happened so often I decided to take it off my system and won't be
returning
to it any time soon.
Your milage, as they say, may vary. But I'm curious to know if this
happened
because the two screen readers were vying for the eloquence synthesizer?
Or
is there some other inherent conflict between JFW and WE?
I have since chosen to use NVDA as my backup screen reader for when Jaws
takes a dive.
Thoughts?
Kimber
On 5/9/14, James Malone via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a heads up, I've been asked to try and use the jaws set AP within
window-eyes. A lot of clients that can't afford to keep up with their
plans to upgrade Jaws is getting their systems preloaded with
Window-Eyes and word. This is included with their new system.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:08 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
GW Micro is also making window eyes available in the maimn menu of
Microsoft products. Eventually, at this rate, all of us will be using
window eyes.
Judith
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
I absolutely agree with you in this.
With government funding getting shorter and shorter FS may have
problems selling their wares to their largest client.
Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
No matter how scrittable Narrator becomes, it will never be as
functional or feature-rich as JAWS or Window Eyes. If any screen
reader is in trouble, it may be JAWS, not Window Eyes. As long as FS
continues to charge upwards of
$1000 for JAWS and makes absolutely no concessions to make it more
affordable like GW Micro has with Window Eyes, it is in more danger of
going under than GW Micro.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
Indications are that Window Eyes is also on its way down the chute.
This move to offer it free with Office is a desperation maneuver, and
since Narrator will (hopefully, if the reports are correct) be
scriptable in Windows 9 it doesn't look good for GW Micro.
Jaws will probably hang on a bit longer thanks to existing scripts
and legacy programs, but this is not good news for any add-on screen
reader company.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
Well, Serotek is still in business, so I guess System Access is till
around, but who knows for how long? Now that Mike Calvo is gone,
and Window Eyes is being offered free to users of Office 2010 and
2013, not to mention NVDA, which is also free, it is hard to see how
Serotek can remain a viable competitor in the cscreen reader market.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
> Is System Access still free and in production?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Mario Brusco via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:59 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>>
>> there also is the built in one in Windows called narrator, which
>> I would like to purchase something to replace MS Anna, like
>> Lequendo's Allison.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:25 AM
>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>>
>>
>> Thunder used to read MS Access when JAWS wouldn't. The voice is
>> awful, but it was a good reader.
>> At 06:51 AM 5/9/2014, you wrote:
>> >A couple of years ago, there was another one from The UK,
>> >Thunder screen Reader. It's the feature attraction in a suite of
>> >programs--
a
>> >basic PDF reader, Internet radio guide, and other stuff.
>> >
>> >Ted
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> >Mario Brusco via Jfw
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:47 PM
>> >To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> >Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>> >
>> >Non Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) from nvaccess.org is the only
>> >one that I know of that's free, but a donation is encouraged.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Kevin Hourigan via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>> >To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:33 PM
>> >Subject: Screen Readers
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello Listers,
>> >Could anyone post some of the screen readers downloadable for
>> >free
>> please?
>> >So I can compare them to Jaws.
>> >Thanks Kevin Hourigan.
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