I was using eloquence with jfw and something else with window eyes, the default synth i think. But even so, whenever i unloaded WE then tried to load jfw, eloquence went crazy and the laptop would lock up and require a reboot.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone > On May 9, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Dennis Clark via Jfw <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello, > Your description is curious. Did you purchase the separate eloquence package > from GW for $39.95? If not, did Windoweyes work only in demo mode, or did you > have Windoweyes working with eloquence without buying eloquence separately? > Thanks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimber Gardner via Jfw" > <[email protected]> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:55 AM > Subject: Re: Screen Readers > > >> Just as a point of information with no judgment intended, I recently >> purchased Office 2013 and thought I'd take advantage of the free >> Window Eyes offer to take it for a test drive. Aside from the fact I >> found the command structure rather confusing, window eyes consistently >> crashed my laptop. This happened so often I decided to take it off my >> system and won't be returning to it any time soon. >> >> Your milage, as they say, may vary. But I'm curious to know if this >> happened because the two screen readers were vying for the eloquence >> synthesizer? Or is there some other inherent conflict between JFW and >> WE? >> >> I have since chosen to use NVDA as my backup screen reader for when >> Jaws takes a dive. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Kimber >> >>> On 5/9/14, James Malone via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Just a heads up, I've been asked to try and use the jaws set AP within >>> window-eyes. A lot of clients that can't afford to keep up with their plans >>> to upgrade Jaws is getting their systems preloaded with Window-Eyes and >>> word. This is included with their new system. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judith Bron >>> via Jfw >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:08 AM >>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' >>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers >>> >>> GW Micro is also making window eyes available in the maimn menu of >>> Microsoft >>> products. Eventually, at this rate, all of us will be using window eyes. >>> Judith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge >>> via Jfw >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:57 AM >>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' >>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers >>> >>> I absolutely agree with you in this. >>> With government funding getting shorter and shorter FS may have problems >>> selling their wares to their largest client. >>> Cy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy >>> via Jfw >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:49 AM >>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers >>> >>> >>> No matter how scrittable Narrator becomes, it will never be as functional >>> or >>> feature-rich as JAWS or Window Eyes. If any screen reader is in trouble, >>> it >>> may be JAWS, not Window Eyes. As long as FS continues to charge upwards of >>> $1000 for JAWS and makes absolutely no concessions to make it more >>> affordable like GW Micro has with Window Eyes, it is in more danger of >>> going >>> under than GW Micro. >>> >>> Gerald >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:25 AM >>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers >>> >>> >>>> Indications are that Window Eyes is also on its way down the chute. >>>> This move to offer it free with Office is a desperation maneuver, and >>>> since Narrator will (hopefully, if the reports are correct) be >>>> scriptable in Windows 9 it doesn't look good for GW Micro. >>>> Jaws will probably hang on a bit longer thanks to existing scripts and >>>> legacy programs, but this is not good news for any add-on screen >>>> reader company. >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald >>>>> Levy via Jfw >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:17 AM >>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >>>>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, Serotek is still in business, so I guess System Access is till >>>>> around, but who knows for how long? Now that Mike Calvo is gone, and >>>>> Window Eyes is being offered free to users of Office 2010 and 2013, >>>>> not to mention NVDA, which is also free, it is hard to see how >>>>> Serotek can remain a viable competitor in the cscreen reader market. >>>>> >>>>> Gerald >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:02 AM >>>>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Is System Access still free and in production? >>>>> > >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> >> Mario Brusco via Jfw >>>>> >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:59 AM >>>>> >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >>>>> >> Subject: Re: Screen Readers >>>>> >> >>>>> >> there also is the built in one in Windows called narrator, which I >>>>> >> would like to purchase something to replace MS Anna, like >>>>> >> Lequendo's Allison. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>>>> >> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> >>>>> >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:25 AM >>>>> >> Subject: RE: Screen Readers >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thunder used to read MS Access when JAWS wouldn't. The voice is >>>>> >> awful, but it was a good reader. >>>>> >> At 06:51 AM 5/9/2014, you wrote: >>>>> >> >A couple of years ago, there was another one from The UK, Thunder >>>>> >> >screen Reader. It's the feature attraction in a suite of >>>>> >> >programs-- >>>>> a >>>>> >> >basic PDF reader, Internet radio guide, and other stuff. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >Ted >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >-----Original Message----- >>>>> >> >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> >> >Mario Brusco via Jfw >>>>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:47 PM >>>>> >> >To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >>>>> >> >Subject: Re: Screen Readers >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >Non Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) from nvaccess.org is the only >>>>> >> >one that I know of that's free, but a donation is encouraged. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >From: "Kevin Hourigan via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:33 PM >>>>> >> >Subject: Screen Readers >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >Hello Listers, >>>>> >> >Could anyone post some of the screen readers downloadable for >>>>> >> >free >>>>> >> please? >>>>> >> >So I can compare them to Jaws. >>>>> >> >Thanks Kevin Hourigan. >>>>> >> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>> >> >scrubbed... >>>>> >> >URL: >>>>> >> ><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the- >>>>> >> jdh.com/attachments/20140508/bf09ca7d/attachment.html> >>>>> >> >-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>>>> >> >scrubbed... >>>>> >> >Name: wlEmoticon-smile[1].png >>>>> >> >Type: image/png >>>>> >> >Size: 1046 bytes >>>>> >> >Desc: not available >>>>> >> >URL: >>>>> >> ><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the- >>>>> >> jdh.com/attachments/20140508/bf09ca7d/attachment.png> >>>>> >> >_______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >Jfw mailing list >>>>> >> >[email protected] >>>>> >> >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >_______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >Jfw mailing list >>>>> >> >[email protected] >>>>> >> >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >_______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >Jfw mailing list >>>>> >> >[email protected] >>>>> >> >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Jfw mailing list >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Jfw mailing list >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Jfw mailing list >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jfw mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jfw mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jfw mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jfw mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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