I hate to see discussions of smart phones conflated with threads about the ways JAWS works with applications such as Word and Excel. JAWS is useful to the extent that we can make it interact with applications, which can be harder in many ways for JAWS users than they are for those not reliant on screenreaders. It would be a shame if the moderator, when he does intervene, feels compelled to return to extremely strict limits. There is no relationship between JAWS and smart phones. One day, as Cy says, there may be, but not now. Information about iPhone and Android lists has been provided. If we keep talking about smart phones, next it will be accessible washing machines, mobility technology, and so on, all of which are critical in our lives. Let's confine ourselves to JAWS-related subjects, or else the moderator will be forced to make difficult decisions that none of us will like.
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:51 PM To: 'Maria Campbell'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Off topic messages Narrow mind, narrow focus, no collaboration, no invention, no solutions. Open mind, open focus, collaboration, invention, solutions. I agree that this is slightly off topic but so have been many of our questions regarding excel and word and other programs that are only related to jaws by the fact that jaws runs with them. The fact that there is no jaws UI for phones is a topic that has been clearly articulated by this thread. The discussion of the UI or lack of it does relate directly to jaws as we all use our mobile devices just as much as our windows/jaws driven machines in order to interact and thus our experience with JFW is relevant as it relates to the same experience on other important machines that facilitate communication. It's a matter of continuity within the framework of UI's and how the community of the blind can engage it successfully. The emotional response that drives members to make this adversarial opposes the inspiration that started the forum. We all know that as a blind person we have to work harder to accomplish the same as one who is not challenged with the impairment and closing the discourse for proprietary reasoning is absurd. We need to help one another through collaboration, invention and solution. It is okay to bring up topics that are slightly off topic so that we engage the fringe of perspective. This is what drives invention and discovery which is what all of us are trying to do here...learn! I appreciate keeping on topic and within the mission of the forum which is why when I read a few posts regarding slightly off topic subjects by our members I ask to engage offlist. But without opening the dialog and allowing discourse to take place there is no way for any alternative engagement. Perhaps providing good guidelines for topics that are slightly "off-topic" would be helpful as I do not agree with the closed door approach to open engagement and thus perhaps that is worthy of further discussion. I have learned so much in the short time I have been involved with this forum by reading the topics that stream into my inbox and communicating with members offlist and I'm very greatful for it. Thanks to all of you. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 2:46 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Off topic messages I can't help but wonder why the moderators are not handling this cell phone issue in a better manner. There are general cell phone list, iPhone lists and android phone lists. That has been established. Siri is not JAWS. Whatever works with android is not JAWS. Too bad if you don't want to bother to take the time to deal with additional messages that might better serve your needs on another list. That's your choice. Moderators, would you please get this list back to the intended purpose. Thank you. -- Sunny Day Maria Campbell [email protected] Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. Blaise Pascal _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
