Hello! First of all: If it's related to jaws (how to use word with jaws ETC) it belongs on this list. So no, stuff like that isn't off topic. The admin has even said we could talk about openbook, and anything else freedom scientific related. I've asked him before just to make sure that I understood everything correctly. :) As for why he's not monitoring this list (yes there's only one actual moderator) I'm thinking that it has to do with him going back to college, and some other stuff. Though, I'm not entirely sure. I just wanted everyone to know that I did contact him via twitter, and asked him to please check this list. So hopefully the off topic messages will stop soon. By the way, that was my second of all, and third of all things. lol. If I knew people would listen to me I'd attempt to put a stop to them, but as it stands I'm not an admin of this list. Though, I've been here since probably 2008. :) I'm just a regular member like you, and I'm sorry I can't help. :( At the risk of sounding more like a jerk than what I feel like I have already. I think I'll end this now. Have a great day/evening/morning/night everyone!
On 12/13/14, Angel via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > If it weren't for Jaws, or another screen reader, those programs mentioned > would not be accessible at all to us blind professionals. Therefore, the > most efficient use of such programs using Jaws is a worthy topic to be > discussing on a Jaws specific list. My understanding was, that was this > lists purpose? But, till Jaws is used on any of these mobile phone > platforms, it is not a suitable topic for a Jaws specific list. It can be > noted the name Jaws originally stood for Job access with speech. As many > job related programs, such as Microsoft Word, XL, and Power point, ETC. > Along with technical programs of which I personally am unaware are used by > those with Jobs whose efficient use is dependent on an expertise with the > screen reader discussed on this list, is why such programs are appropriate > for this list. Simply because they are used with Jaws, and they might not > be used as efficiently, if at all, by another screen reader. Or an > employer, or government agency may not have given the end user the choice of > > the use of another screen reader. Which is often the case. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Nickel via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "'Maria Campbell'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows > support list.'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:50 PM > Subject: RE: Off topic messages > > >> Narrow mind, narrow focus, no collaboration, no invention, no solutions. >> Open mind, open focus, collaboration, invention, solutions. >> >> I agree that this is slightly off topic but so have been many of our >> questions regarding excel and word and other programs that are only >> related >> to jaws by the fact that jaws runs with them. The fact that there is no >> jaws UI for phones is a topic that has been clearly articulated by this >> thread. The discussion of the UI or lack of it does relate directly to >> jaws >> as we all use our mobile devices just as much as our windows/jaws driven >> machines in order to interact and thus our experience with JFW is >> relevant >> as it relates to the same experience on other important machines that >> facilitate communication. It's a matter of continuity within the >> framework >> of UI's and how the community of the blind can engage it successfully. >> >> >> The emotional response that drives members to make this adversarial >> opposes >> the inspiration that started the forum. We all know that as a blind >> person >> we have to work harder to accomplish the same as one who is not >> challenged >> with the impairment and closing the discourse for proprietary reasoning >> is >> absurd. We need to help one another through collaboration, invention and >> solution. It is okay to bring up topics that are slightly off topic so >> that >> we engage the fringe of perspective. This is what drives invention and >> discovery which is what all of us are trying to do here...learn! >> >> I appreciate keeping on topic and within the mission of the forum which >> is >> why when I read a few posts regarding slightly off topic subjects by our >> members I ask to engage offlist. But without opening the dialog and >> allowing discourse to take place there is no way for any alternative >> engagement. Perhaps providing good guidelines for topics that are >> slightly >> "off-topic" would be helpful as I do not agree with the closed door >> approach >> to open engagement and thus perhaps that is worthy of further discussion. >> >> I have learned so much in the short time I have been involved with this >> forum by reading the topics that stream into my inbox and communicating >> with >> members offlist and I'm very greatful for it. >> >> Thanks to all of you. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria >> Campbell >> via Jfw >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 2:46 PM >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Subject: Off topic messages >> >> I can't help but wonder why the moderators are not handling this cell >> phone issue in a better manner. >> There are general cell phone list, iPhone lists and android phone >> lists. That has been established. >> Siri is not JAWS. Whatever works with android is not JAWS. >> Too bad if you don't want to bother to take the time to deal with >> additional messages that might better serve your needs on another list. >> That's your choice. >> Moderators, would you please get this list back to the intended purpose. >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> >> Sunny Day >> Maria Campbell >> [email protected] >> >> Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. >> Blaise Pascal >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
