Dennis this is very interesting, I will have to try it. I use a decktalk
express and my work machine I have to use the dte driver provided by JFWl.
My home machine I use the dectalk express drivers provided by dec.
Thanks for this information.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: (bcc: Karim Lakhani)
From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02/02/99 07:54:07 AM GMT
Subject: Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
Hi,
I just shut everything down, restarted the system in Safe mode, and hit my
Control+Esc key to get the Start Menu up and hit "J" to run the JFW!
shortcut I keep there for such uses...ran just fine! I have the "Run Jaws
first" option checked, but that isn't applicable in safe mode.
What synthesizer do you use...does it have specific drivers to run before
FW
can access it? I'm using the DoubleTalk internal.
Incidentally, for anyone interested...Safe mode can be accessed without
using the boot menu's item#3. If you stop in DOS with the BootGUI=0 in
msdos.sys, or use an empty win.bat file in autoexec.bat, or however you
boot
to the DOS prompt, you can use the command line argument of "/D:M" on the
"Win.com" line when running that particular Windows session. You'd change
to the C:\Windows subdirectory and use the command, "Win /D:M".
There are several other switches you can use with the Win command--to get a
list of them, type "Win /?".
Thanks,
Dennis Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
>I have never gotten it to work in safe mode either. Even if i tried
manually
>and disabled the run jaws first option.
>
>
>
>Dennis Bartlett
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:57 AM
>> To: bill cameron
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
>>
>>
>> Hi Bill and all:
>> I wonder about your statement, about getting JFW to talk when you
>> boot into
>> safe mode.
>> Did you have to do anything special to get this to work, the last time I
>> ended up booting in safe mode I had no speech.
>> I would be interested in what ever information you could share about JFW
>> talking in safe mode.
>> Thanks!
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> cc: (bcc: Karim Lakhani)
>> From: bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 01/30/99 01:58:21 PM GMT
>> Subject: Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the best reason for not using run jfw with start up is that if something
>> goes
>> wrong you will have no voice when you reboot in safe mode to fix stuff.
>> of course if you have a second screen reader or another version
>> of jfw this
>> is
>> a non issue.
>>
>> bill cameron
>>
>> At 01:09 PM 1/30/99 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Hi there,
>> >
>> >I have found out that
>> >
>> >1. JFW doesn't work properly for all with the "Run JAWS First
option.
>> >(Don't know why but someone agreed it was probably a timing issue).
>> >
>> >2. The "Run JAWS First" option kicks in earlier than the
>> STARTUP Menu.
>> (I
>> >think I have found that you can actually get JAWS in before Windows 95
>> asks
>> >for a Password this way.
>> >
>> >3. For some unknown reason, I find that, although JAWS will work
with
>> the
>> >"Run JAWS First" option checked on my machine, EUDORA runs much better
if
>> I
>> >use the STARTUP Menu which I am now doing.
>> >
>> >Hope this helps.
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Carol Pearson
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >At 05:08 29/01/99 -0000, alex wrote:
>> >>Carol, at work I use jfw for NT under NT 4.0 with service pack 4, and
>> this
>> >>does not support the run jaws firs option. However, at home I use the
>> same
>> >>version of jfw with the run jaws first option. It never occurred to
me
>> not
>> >>to use the run jaws firs option at home. However, my home PC has
>> multiple
>> >>users, and I suspect that if I put JFW in the start-up menu,
>> this will no
>> >>longer speak.
>> >>I would be interested in any information you find out.
>> >>Regards.
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>To: jfw mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Date: 27 January 1999 17:04
>> >>Subject: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Hi Everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>>Today I decided to turn off the "Run JAWS First" option and
>> replace this
>> by
>> >>>putting JAWS into my Startup programs. I have done this merely as an
>> >>>experiment because I wanted to see if there was any difference in
JAWS
>> >>>performance and interaction between programs.
>> >>>
>> >>>It's early days yet and I may be imaginging things but it definitely
>> seems
>> >>>to me that JAWS is much more stable in EUDORA, following every
message
>> in
>> >>>turn without skipping messages. Lately (with the introduction of the
>> >>>latest couple of patches) I have also noticed an increase in
>> the popping
>> up
>> >>>of my STB Vision desk manager which I think is a total waste
>> of time but
>> >>>I'm forced to have it with this video card and drivers!
>> >>>
>> >>>So, can it be this change in JAWS which has brought about a smoother
>> >>>running computer? Has anyone else found this or will anyone try it
as
>> >>well?
>> >>>
>> >>>Please, all those techies out there, can you confirm to me that in
the
>> "Run
>> >>>JAWS First" option JAWS is loaded before the programs in Startup, or
>> have I
>> >>>got this wrong?
>> >>>
>> >>>Did someone once say that HJ's thinking on the subject was that the
>> quicker
>> >>>JAWS was put into the system the better, or something of that
>> sort, thus
>> >>>the introduction of the "Run JAWS First" option?
>> >>>
>> >>>Any advice and observations would be most interesting.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>Carol Pearson
>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>
>> >>>-
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>> >>
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