Well I am using an Accent SA at work and an DEC Express at home.



Dennis Bartlett
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:57 AM
> To: Dennis Brown
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
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>
> Dennis this is very interesting, I will have to try it.  I use a decktalk
> express and my work machine I have to use the dte driver provided by JFWl.
> My home machine I use the dectalk express drivers provided by dec.
> Thanks for this information.
> To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:        (bcc: Karim Lakhani)
> From:     "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:     02/02/99 07:54:07 AM GMT
> Subject:  Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I just shut everything down, restarted the system in Safe mode, and hit my
> Control+Esc key to get the Start Menu up and hit "J" to run the JFW!
> shortcut I keep there for such uses...ran just fine!  I have the "Run Jaws
> first" option checked, but that isn't applicable in safe mode.
> What synthesizer do you use...does it have specific drivers to run before
> FW
> can access it?  I'm using the DoubleTalk internal.
> Incidentally, for anyone interested...Safe mode can be accessed without
> using the boot menu's item#3.  If you stop in DOS with the BootGUI=0 in
> msdos.sys, or use an empty win.bat file in autoexec.bat, or however you
> boot
> to the DOS prompt, you can use the command line argument of "/D:M" on the
> "Win.com" line when running that particular Windows session.  You'd change
> to the C:\Windows subdirectory and use the command, "Win /D:M".
> There are several other switches you can use with the Win
> command--to get a
> list of them, type "Win /?".
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis Brown
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:47 PM
> Subject: RE: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
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> >I have never gotten it to work in safe mode either. Even if i tried
> manually
> >and disabled the run jaws first option.
> >
> >
> >
> >Dennis Bartlett
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> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani
> >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:57 AM
> >> To: bill cameron
> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Bill and all:
> >> I wonder about your statement, about getting JFW to talk when you
> >> boot into
> >> safe mode.
> >> Did you have to do anything special to get this to work, the
> last time I
> >> ended up booting in safe mode I had no speech.
> >> I would be interested in what ever information you could share
> about JFW
> >> talking in safe mode.
> >> Thanks!
> >> To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> cc:        (bcc: Karim Lakhani)
> >> From:     bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date:     01/30/99 01:58:21 PM GMT
> >> Subject:  Re: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> the best reason for not using run jfw with start up is that if
> something
> >> goes
> >> wrong you will have no voice when you reboot in safe mode to fix stuff.
> >> of course if you have a second screen reader or another version
> >> of jfw this
> >> is
> >> a non  issue.
> >>
> >> bill cameron
> >>
> >> At 01:09 PM 1/30/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >> >Hi there,
> >> >
> >> >I have found out that
> >> >
> >> >1.     JFW doesn't work properly for all with the "Run JAWS First
> option.
> >> >(Don't know why but someone agreed it was probably a timing issue).
> >> >
> >> >2.     The "Run JAWS First" option kicks in earlier than the
> >> STARTUP Menu.
> >> (I
> >> >think I have found that you can actually get JAWS in before Windows 95
> >> asks
> >> >for a Password this way.
> >> >
> >> >3.     For some unknown reason, I find that, although JAWS will work
> with
> >> the
> >> >"Run JAWS First" option checked on my machine, EUDORA runs much better
> if
> >> I
> >> >use the STARTUP Menu which I am now doing.
> >> >
> >> >Hope this helps.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Carol Pearson
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At 05:08 29/01/99 -0000, alex wrote:
> >> >>Carol, at work I use jfw for NT under NT 4.0 with service pack 4, and
> >> this
> >> >>does not support the run jaws firs option.  However, at home
> I use the
> >> same
> >> >>version of jfw with the run jaws first option.  It never occurred to
> me
> >> not
> >> >>to use the run jaws firs option at home.  However, my home PC has
> >> multiple
> >> >>users, and I suspect that if I put JFW in the start-up menu,
> >> this will no
> >> >>longer speak.
> >> >>I would be interested in any information you find out.
> >> >>Regards.
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>To: jfw mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>Date: 27 January 1999 17:04
> >> >>Subject: THE STARTUP MENU V RUN JAWS FIRST OPTION
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Hi Everyone,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Today I decided to turn off the "Run JAWS First" option and
> >> replace this
> >> by
> >> >>>putting JAWS into my Startup programs.  I have done this
> merely as an
> >> >>>experiment because I wanted to see if there was any difference in
> JAWS
> >> >>>performance and interaction between programs.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It's early days yet and I may be imaginging things but it definitely
> >> seems
> >> >>>to me that JAWS is much more stable in EUDORA, following every
> message
> >> in
> >> >>>turn without skipping messages.  Lately (with the
> introduction of the
> >> >>>latest couple of patches) I have also noticed an increase in
> >> the popping
> >> up
> >> >>>of my STB Vision desk manager which I think is a total waste
> >> of time but
> >> >>>I'm forced to have it with this video card and drivers!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>So, can it be this change in JAWS which has brought about a smoother
> >> >>>running computer?  Has anyone else found this or will anyone try it
> as
> >> >>well?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Please, all those techies out there, can you confirm to me that in
> the
> >> "Run
> >> >>>JAWS First" option JAWS is loaded before the programs in Startup, or
> >> have I
> >> >>>got this wrong?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Did someone once say that HJ's thinking on the subject was that the
> >> quicker
> >> >>>JAWS was put into the system the better, or something of that
> >> sort, thus
> >> >>>the introduction of the "Run JAWS First" option?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Any advice and observations would be most interesting.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>--
> >> >>>Carol Pearson
> >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>
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