not sure i understand the question nick, surely  you want software info, the 
delux version of the adaptec software is highly recommended.
also sea gate back up exec 98 works.

i agree the h p  burner is a great choice, it has a m t b f  of 150,000 hours
it has a smaller buffer than some other units, actually after searching for
weeks i like 3 differant models.
the h p model is  one of the three due to its long  m t b f.
the yamaha has c d r and c d r w which is 4 by 4 by 20.
they do not provide m t b f.
i think the yamaha is both scsi and i d e, the h p is ide.

the yamaha  comes with a bunch of software from c d w.

2 meg buffer  and cost around 400


now one should realize that c d r w is over rated, reason being no software
that i know of supports incremental backup.
so bing  able to rewrite does not save time, it only save the  price of buying
a new disk.
with c d r disk at 2 dollars it is no big deal.

so on to my final choice, which is really 2 choices.

these are both c d r units, no c d r w.

plextor
8 x by 20
plextor only has scsi units

this baby comes with a pretty good scsi card,
the adaptec 2930 c.
its a p c i scsi controller card that is also 
ultra speed.
ultra is also called scsi 3.
personally this means nothing because the burner is scsi 2, so all devices
hooked to it will operate at scsi 2.
the card is however p c i, plug and play, supports auto termination for the
scanner port on the back.
plus this card also has flash bios so it can be upgraded.
bottom line here is this unit cost 500 dollars,
but it comes with a 115 dollar scsi card that can  work with multiple devices.
not the usual cheap  i s a scsi cards that some ship with burners and scanners.
be sure to check  that this scsi card comes with both internal and external
drives.
do not trust me, because some times people lie to me.
they are listed in 800 information.
its m t b f is 60,000 hour
now remember that it can burn disk twice as fast, so  in that 60,000 hours it
should burn the same number of cd rom disk as  a 4 x in 120,000 hours.
by the way the buffer is 4 meg.

plextor also has a caddy model that comes with a 2 meg buffer with a 100,000 m
t b f.
it writes at 4 x.
another factor is be sure to buy a cd rom drive
 that has a large cache in it.
that is if you want to go from cd rom to cd  r drive.
right now the biggest cache in a standard cd rom drive is 512 k.
now i suggest getting the biggest cache and biggest buffer to do direct cd to c
d r burning.
also the cd rom drive must be faster than the c d r burner.
or you will get scrapped disk.

one other word of caution, if you buy a  d v d disk be aware that if they say
it has a 512 k cache in it, that  you better take a second look.
that 512 k cache applies to only the d v d portion and not to the standard c d
rom portion.
here i like the creative labs  because the cd rom is 32 x,  and both d v d and
standard  cd rom are both 512 k cache.
of course it cost a lot more than the others, so much more that one could buy a
seperate cd rom drive.
that is because it is only available in kit form with decoder card.
price 250.
its made by panasonic parent company.

well with all that said, good luck, and be sure to buy from a vendor that
allows refunds if it does not work.
also remember that one can  be successful with out going cd to cd r by first
going to harddrive.
tip if you opt for scsi from plextor buying their cd rom drive would also make
sense.
going scsi to scsi  in theory would maybe make it possible to use the system
for something else during this process.
though in practice i personally do not know anybody doing this.
maybe when teac releases their  8 x with 6 meg buffer in april it  might make
the p c  be able to do other work without scrapping disk.
hope this info is useful.







bill cameron






























 



bill cameron




























At 08:40 AM 1/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello listers,
>
>The Adaptec Easy CD Creator is a set of programs used to make CDs.  It is
>very friendly with JFW.  I used it all the time.  The only thing that you
>have to do is onload JFW as soon as you start copying the CD.  If not you
>will get an error in the copying and the CD will get damaged.  Many CD
>copiers come with this program.  I suggest you to use the HP CD Writer 7200
>(299 at PCConnetion) or HP 8100 ($400).  If you need further information you
>may contact me privately.  The PCCoonnection address is www.pcconection.com.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Luis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: jfw mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 9:13 PM
>Subject: Looking for CD ROM Writer, JFW friendly (fwd)
>
>
>>Hi all
>>I'm forwarding this for Eric Damery, please see reply information in the
>>message below.
>>
>>Regards Nick
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:23:31 -0500
>>From: Eric Damery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Cc: Joseph Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>     "Lazzaro-MCB, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Looking for CD ROM Writer, JFW friendly
>>
>>I have a contact in Massachusetts looking for a JFW friendly CD-ROM writer.
>>I would appreciate it if you could forward this to the List in search of
>>anyone who is producing CD's that might have any suggestions. Private
>>messages could be directed to Joe Lazzaro at the following address.
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>I have copied Joe Dunn as well because I think he is doing something
>similar
>>at his organization.
>>
>>Eric
>>
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>>
>
>-
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