well nick you could not be more wrong here.
all my messages dealt with jfw either through access or key issues.

maybe it is my  fault for not making myself clear.
first of all partition majic which used to be dos is now a true win 98 apt, and
yes it does work with jfw, in a speech friendly manner,
and the program is documented in the   version of the software.exe file i am
about to be releaseing by rob hubbard.
that covers the partition majic issues.
also  the original issue was  about system commander had nothing or little to
do with what happened in 

in dos or with the key, that question was the user able to use jfw with the
part of the program that resides in windows, where the user can go in to the
win 9x or n t operating system and use jfw to make changes to the program with
jfw speech.
according to denis it can not do this,
while the boot sector program from  power quest can.

those changes would  give the user the ability to change the default drive, but
the question once again was can jfw do this in windows.
true the discussion  also had to deal with the issue of keys.
for me those were the least rellavent jfw questions ask in this thread.
Nick not sure if you understood partition majic is now a true win 9 x apt.
no longer is it a dos apt, so maybe that is what through you.
in addition most people using  utilities it would seem would want to know how
to avoid screwing up the key.
so all i can say is my questions and answers on this  thread  are definitely on
topic, dealing with jfw being able to access these programs,   and are not just
key issues.
though once people on this list said that these programs could not be used
because of key 
problems i  did step in to explain that they can be used by removeing the key.


here once again with partition majic i was essentially saying that one can
remove the key and still enjoy access to jfw in windows with out  loseing
speech.
many people new to computers  are amazed to hear that they can do things with
no key on their system.

this point is also directly jfw and windows related.
true their 2 methods to do this, one being put the key disk  into drive a.
the other method i did not want to discuss because  i have silch  knowledge
about the new key system being used.
and  to discuss that  would require telling people how to do it with both keys,
the everlock key and the newer key hj is now using.
part of the reason i was not clear, had to do with the way i spread out my
answer over several questions.
usually as a result  of people asking  for a little more info each time, so i
apologize for that, because this message here pretty much documents the whole
thread and provides all rellavent info.
i may have gone off on a little tangent to explain that a person can safely use
these programs 
if they know how to use these programs properly, 
but doing so requires a little knowledge to use them properly, with out
destroying the key.
even their i only did that to show that proper use must be used to protect the
key.
thanks for  listening to my long winded explanation.


bill cameron



  




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At 01:01 PM 3/17/99 +1100, you wrote:
>This is getting off the topic of jfw, The only thing I've seen relevant
>was the authorisation key part. If anyone else has jfw related problems
>with system commander, please continue.  otherwise take it to private
>email.
>
>thanks.
>
>
>Regards Nick
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Ron Marriage wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Bill has the right idea. I use system Commander Deluxe and run a single HD
>> with 4 partitions. DOS, Win95, and 2 for Linux.
>> 
>> I tried patition Magic and it made the partitions, but I lost data when I
>> tried to resize them.  System Commander did a super job. 
>> 
>> I can change partition sizes as needed with it and only remove my JFW key
>> during resizing.
>> 
>> Its a DOS program and runs well with my old DOS ASAP. When finished I put
>> the JFW Key back in again. 
>> 
>> Tech support is super and had no problem helping me when I told them I used
>> a screan reader.
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> >From: bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >by the way i forgot,  a person can use partition magic you just have to
>> remove
>> >the key.
>> >the key does not have to be on the harddrive in order to use jfw.
>> >reinstall the key after useing it.
>> >
>> >bill cameron
>> >
>> >At 11:30 AM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>Scott, stay clear!!!! We tested system commander and lost tons of
>> >>authorization keys, due to system commands manipulation of the boo sector
>> >>of the hard drive and other data. It apparently upsets jfw greatly. I
would
>> >>even avoid the use of partitionmagic or any utility to upsets the
>> >>configuration of your hard drive, unless you want to continually 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron Marriage
>> Email    = mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Homepage = http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/
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>> http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html
>> or
>> http://welcome.to/blindlinks
>> 
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