I can agree with that. I for one am for that toggle.

On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:25:06 +1200 Jonathan Mosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>Sean, your points are good ones, which is why I think this feature 
>should be
>a toggle. But I can tell you that because of this feature, programmes 
>like
>Microsoft netmeeting, Windows Explorer and many others are a lot 
>easier to
>use with Windoweyes. There are times when we do need to know exactly 
>what a
>sighted person is seeing, but in the majority of cases, what we want 
>is good
>access. If being blind gives us an advantage for once, then let's use 
>it.
>
>Jonathan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 2:06 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: More enhancements I'd like in JFW verbosity -Reply 
>-Reply
>
>
>Hi Jonathan 
>
>The suggestion that you have given blow is a nice feature.  But I do
>not feel that a screen reader of any type should read out information
>that is not visible on the screen.  There is two reasons why I feel
>that this is a problem.
>
>1.  If you are in a situation that you are working on your computer
>with a sighted person on a project and lets say that you were going
>through a group of files.  All these files started with the same
>characters, but the ending characters were different.  The sighted
>person would not be getting the same information that you are and
>confusion could rain.  
>
>2.  A screen reader should be presenting exactly what is on the
>screen, in a fashion that a vision impaired person can understand. 
>Therefore if there is only part of a word visible in a list box, that
>is what the screen reader should report.  What the screen reader
>should provide is the ability of expanding the window hich is
>preventing you from reading all the information.  This feature would
>assist a vision impaired person with a lot of different situations. 
>e.g.  Expanding or reducing windows.
>
>
>Cheers
>Sean.
>>>> Jonathan Mosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25/March/1999 09:17am >>>
>Another thing that HJ may like to include as a toggle is a feature
>which
>lets the user hear the entire contents of text that is not completely
>displayed on the screen. For example, I have a lot of MP3 old time
>radio
>files with very long names by the time the date of the show and the
>show's
>title is included. JFW tells me what is on the screen, which 
>generally
>results in the filename being trunkated with dot dot dot. However,
>Windoweyes and I believe some other screen readers have designed 
>their
>OSM
>in such a way that they can access the entire text. Sometimes a user
>may
>well need to know exactly what is being displayed on the screen, 
>hence
>my
>view that this could be a toggle.
>
>Jonathan
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