Hi Richard,
I am not a computer whiz, but I think the following happens.
First, I don't believe that jfd works with a software synthesizer like
DecTalk Access32 or Eloquence.  Somebody correct me if I am wrong, please!
When I first installed jfw many years ago now, I had previously been using
jfd, and I encountered a real big mess.  It seemed my screen reader was
trying to run through mud instead of air.

This is how I solved the problem, which was having two screen readers
running simultaneously.
I kept jfw as my default windows reader by going into the jfd file menu and
unchecking the run jaws first feature, so that it would not come up at the
same time I had jfw running.  After restarting the computer I found the
problem was fixed.  Jaws ran just fine.
That is jfw ran just fine all alone.

Now the DOS files and programs were no longer available to me.  But since I
had a hardware synthesizer and many programs I liked in DOS, I could not
access them with jfw.  So this is what I did.  Remember you have to have a
hardware synthesizer installed on your computer to make this work.  I know
it worked with DecTalk Express, and I think it will work with Double Talk
external, but I am not sure.

Now I have jfw running just fine on my system with no muddy running.  To get
to DOS and jfd I did the following.  If this is not correct, since it has
been so long a time since I have done this, somebody please let both of us
know.
Using jfw I went to the DOS prompt, now called the MSDOS prompt in the
windows start menu.  Before pressing the enter key I memorized the following
DOS commands:
cd\jaws2.31
jaws
Then I would first close jfw while it was focused on MSDOS prompt, then
press enter.
Now I am completely in the dark, no sound, but memory should serve for now.
You should be in your DOS program without sound or screen reader running.
By using the DOS commands above you will first:
cd\jaws2.31
Then press the enter key which, at that time, I believe, brought up the jaws
directory (cd\ means change directory), then I typed in the second command:
jaws
and pressed the enter key.
Now I am up and running with jfd or jaws for DOS screen reader.
I am not sure how to close jfd when you are through using it, but some one
knows on this list, and maybe they will tell us.  Also I would like to know
if the above commands works for the free download version of jfd, available
via hj web site?
Well at this point I am still in the DOS program and I wish to go to
windows.  I can close DOS by exiting it with the command at the c:\ prompt:
exit, enter or I could go directly to windows by typing in at the c:\ prompt
the command: windows or cd\windows or win or some thing like that to get
back into the windows program.  Someone please correct me on that?

This is the reason having a hot key can be so helpful.  With an available
hot key to bring up either jfw or jfd in theory at least it should work well
without having both screen readers trying to run at the same time.  Knowing
the commands to shut each screen reader off or close it out like jfw or jfd
or for that matter any other brand would be very helpful in being sure that
two screen readers are not running simultaneously.

Now I hope someone has read this message and will respond to it with more
precise and accurate instructions as how to use jfw and jfd independently of
each other including the way to open them and close them, if necessary.
Then I will load my hardware synthesizer on my computer and may jfw and jfd
co-exist in harmony with your help.

I believe it can be done, but I do not trust the instructions I have given
so far, since it has been, it seems like, eons since I have used them.  I
would appreciate some type of validation, replication or something that
really works.  So, let us know for sure.

Thanks,

Harry
The Trust Walker



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: DOS-Mode Programs and Speech


>If I am wrong please correct me.  I had heard that even though you check in
>the default manager for a DOS screen reader to work in Windows, JFW and JFD
>are fighting for access to read a DOS program?  If I remember in Jaws 3.0
in
>order to use a DOS screen reader you had to check sleep mode and unload
Jaws
>in the default manager, in order to use it.  The problem I have with doing
>this is I kill JFW, if I check unload as well.  I'm using JFW3.30.26 with
>doubletalk LT external, and I have the free version of Jaws for DOS from
HJ.
>I had to remove the DOS version because it was doing something to my CD
>drive, and the above problem.
>
>
>Mr. Richard T. Costa
>Certified Horsemenship Association
>Program Committee for Instructors for Riders with Disabilities
>www.cha-ahse.org
>Vice Chair for The National Horse Show Educational Committee
>
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