I think so. that is why I don't  spend as much time
reading messages.

--- bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this group becoming a soapbox derby?
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Neufeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Regarding scripts
> 
> 
> > Dear Marie and GDUC Listers.
> >
> > Although I thought my message, containing the
> statements to which you
> > refer, was sent toa n individual and not to the
> list, it makes little
> > difference in the long run.  Each of us are
> entitled to our philosophies,
> > our perspectives about why things work or do not
> work in specific places.
> > First, Marie, no one, in their right mind, knowing
> the strong proactive
> you
> > and Chris have taken on many issues, would or
> could talk about passivity
> in
> > your regard.  This is likewise true of otheres on
> this list.  I meant no
> > slur to anyone in particular, especially withr
> espect to members on this
> > list who are more forward-looking and aggresive
> than many I have met.
> > Otherwise, very frankly, I would not be a member
> of the group.
> > As you correctly point out, there are historical
> reasons that explain
> > differences between the attitudes and approaches
> adopted by blind consumer
> > groups in different countries.  It is because of
> these historical factors
> > that Canadians, by no means limited to blind
> people, adopt, in my view, a
> > less militent, more passive attitude toward
> legislation they dislike, e.g.
> > the PST and GST taxes.  Please forgive me if, at
> times, I become a bit
> > cynical when I hear of people's expectations about
> the outcome of
> meetings,
> > set up between the police, as in the present
> instance, and we, the blind
> > consumers.  Failure to recognize that such
> meetings serve little more than
> > to play into the hands of the real wrong-doers
> here, suggests some naevete
> > on our part, a situation that frustrates me a lot.
>  Many of us seem to
> > think that meetings, important as they can be at
> times, will serve to
> solve
> > issues that, as you and Chris know all too well,
> can be solved only by
> > concerted, fighting back, in the tactics and with
> the language that those
> > we resist know best.
> > No.  Do not interpret my statements, not intended
> for the group, as
> > including everyone, not at all.  I was speaking in
> generalities,
> > generalities that, Chris, and perhaps you, as long
> time advocates for the
> > blind, will recognize as true.  Do not interpret
> them, please, as
> > pertaining to specific individuals or to specific
> situations.
> >
> > Respectfully.
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 8/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Greetings,
> > >A recent poster to this list suggested that the I
> C Q scripts were  JAWS
> 3.2
> > >scripts--and to use them with 3.3.026-- one had
> to put the scripts onto
> 3.2,
> > >add 3.3026 and then do the merge. Well, what if
> one tries those  I C Q
> > >scripts with 3.3026? and  since we will soon get
> 3.3.1, I am sure people
> > >will still want to use I C Q with 3.3.1. What I
> am suggesting is that
> this
> > >script thing needs to be better explained.
> > >
> > >also, I was one of the people who used the MONEY
> 98 scripts. For me,
> MONEY
> > >98 works just fine. Does the situation implied in
> the previous paragraph
> > >apply to those MONEY 98 scripts? Are the MONEY 98
> scripts only for 3.2;
> or
> > >will  they work with 3.3 (if you don't merge)?
> Will they work with 3.3.1?
> Of
> > >course no one knows anything about 3.3.1. but my
> point is that the need
> for
> > >scripts is universal. People will want to use
> MONEY and enjoy usingI C Q.
> > >
> > >I raise this issue for those gifted beta testers
> out there (whoever they
> > >are) so that this script situation will become 
> much more understandable
> > >when 3.3.1 arrives.
> > >
> > >Also to those spanish users, please will any of
> you be serving as beta
> > >testers for 3.3.1?
> > >
> > >If any one is using 3.3.026 with the I C Q
> scripts (and you did not merge
> > >3.2 and 3.3) and the I C Q works, write me "off
> list".
> > >
> > >thanks  in advance
> > >
> > >-
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> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > -
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> >
> 
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