Ok, I see what you mean. So I just will have to continue to transfer my
modifications as we upgrade. I just finished putting my backspace one back
in.
At 06:26 PM 10/1/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Walter,
>I generally leave modified scripts/functions where they are, since they may
>need to be in that position due to compiling process precedence, and then
>note it in a comment line under my own section. I place new additions in
>the personal area.
>Yes, it is a pain, but I'm not sure having JFW merge those modifications and
>additions automatically is such a good idea--especially for HJ's sake, since
>they'd be the ones catching heat rounds from users that find the new upgrade
>locks up while they try to use a default function/script, which probably
>won't process correctly because of one of the user's personal script
>modifications taking out a vital function or two!
>There are just too many scripts and functions to cause trouble in when
>merging. The dictionary files, and the configuration files, are pretty
>static in format and contents, so they would have no problem merging. The
>frame files would probably have no problems either, if HJ used the same
>format they use for messages found in the .jsm files; Frame522, Frame473,
>Frame121, etc. With that format, the likelihood of the default frame names
>and the user's frame names being the same would be greatly lessened.
>
>Thanks,
>Dennis Brown, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>DB Tech! 770-465-9621
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:18 AM
>Subject: Re: Merge?
>
>
>> Dennis, I think that I may understand what you are saying, but let's get
>> into something that is real for me. I fixed the backspace problem in my
>> default file, also I fixed that changing the number on the fly,. Both of
>> these were in the default, so when there comes another upgrade, now these
>> are in there already, so should I go and insert my Walter's script line
>> now, then I have to copy those into the new default script when the next
>> update comes out? They just need to have a simpler way to update scripts
>> when a new update comes out. If hj would just do their scripts better,
>> then we would not have to go through all of this. It is something when
>> outsiders can seem to do better working scripts then their own employees.
>> At 05:27 AM 10/1/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hello Walter,
>> >Basically when you want to modify a script file, hit Control+End to move
>to
>> >the bottom of the script file, and type in a separating line between the
>> >current scripts/functions within that particular file, and the scripts
>> >you'll be adding to that particular file. Something like
>> >; Walter's scripts start here.
>> >
>> >Now, whenever you add a script, do so below this line, and when modifying
>an
>> >existing script that is above that line, place a comment line to that
>effect
>> >just below this line. It is a good idea to put your name in that
>separator
>> >line, since it will give you a unique word to search for when adding
>those
>> >comments.
>> >So, for example, you are in Outlook Express, and you want to add the
>> >ScriptTip, "GreetingHeader" to the Outlook script file, you would:
>> >1) Hit Insert+0 to launch Script Manager with msoe.jss loaded.
>> >2) If you have never added or modified any items within this particular
>> >script, hit Control+End to reach the bottom of the file, and add the
>line:
>> >
>> >; Walter's Outlook Express v5 scripts
>> >
>> >Just below that line, add the GreetingHeader script by cutting and
>pasting
>> >the relevant code.
>> >If you've put that separator line in this particular script file in an
>> >earlier modification/addition, then hit Control+F once you are in the
>> >editor, and have the Find function locate "Walter's", and once you find
>that
>> >location, place the script as mentioned above.
>> >If you also want to modify the DeleteMessage, PreviousMessage, and
>> >NextMessage, by adding a higher value to their delay functions, make the
>> >modifications, and before leaving the script editor, search for the
>> >"Walter's" line and just underneath that separator line, add a comment,
>> >denoting the modifications.
>> >
>> >; Walter's Outlook Express v5 Scripts
>> >; Modified Delay time value in DeleteMessage & Next/Previous message
>> >scripts.
>> >
>> >; Pulls "from" info from header and places it in reply greeting.
>> >Script GreetingHeader()
>> >.
>> >.
>> >.
>> >EndScript
>> >
>> >
>> >Now you have a record of modifications, and a block of added scripts.
>You
>> >can cut and paste these into JFW upgrades, , and make the necessary
>> >modifications to the new set of scripts. It is indeed tedious, but, so
>far,
>> >the only method I've come up with.
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Dennis Brown, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >DB Tech Services 770-465-9621
>> >Check out Blind Programming site at http://brown99.home.mindspring.com
>> >Send blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join the
>> >discussion!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 7:50 AM
>> >Subject: Re: Merge?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Woe, Dennis, you lost me. How about explaining this in your good old
>> >usual
>> >> step by step explaination.
>> >> At 10:02 PM 9/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >> >Hello,
>> >> >One thing that makes the manual merge easier is put all the personal
>> >scripts
>> >> >in their own little block, and a comment line noting any default
>script
>> >or
>> >> >function modified.
>> >> >
>> >> >; **My scripts start here**
>> >> >; Added AutoRoute variable to Global and AutoStart.
>> >> >; Added Beep command to FocusChangedEvent.
>> >> >; Modified "Wait" to "PleaseWait" and "Arrow" to "Ready"
>> >> >; within ConvertCursorShape...
>> >> >; Added SayLine to Invisible/JawsCursors
>> >> >; Added SayLine to PcCursor.
>> >> >; Modified Jaws/Invisible to autoroute to Pc.
>> >> >; Modified MenuModeEvent --removed DownArrow on StartMenu.
>> >> >; Removed Verbosity check from TopOfFile and BottomOfFile.
>> >> >;
>> >> >CopyTextFromScreen
>> >> >SerialNumberAndPasswordMenu
>> >> >ChangePunctuation
>> >> >ChangeNumbersMode
>> >> >DeleteLine
>> >> >TestOptValue
>> >> >TextFormatToggle
>> >> >UniversalPrintDate
>> >> >ChangeSynthesizer
>> >> >.
>> >> >.
>> >> >.
>> >> >; **My scripts stop here!**
>> >> >
>> >> >Tedious all get-out, but it does work!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >Dennis Brown, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >DB Tech Services 770-465-9621
>> >> >Check out Blind Programming site at http://brown99.home.mindspring.com
>> >> >Send blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join
>the
>> >> >discussion!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: Development Manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 7:35 PM
>> >> >Subject: RE: Merge?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The merge function merges dictionaries (.jsd), configurations
>(.jcf),
>> >> >frames
>> >> >> and (likely) some other items which I cannot remember off the top of
>my
>> >> >> head.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We do not, at this time, merge script files as that procedure would
>be
>> >far
>> >> >> more complicated. To wit, consider the possibility that you have
>> >written
>> >> >a
>> >> >> script named, "MyfavoriteScript" and, then, a HJ script writer adds
>a
>> >> >script
>> >> >> to the set we ship that has the same name - which one does the merge
>> >keep?
>> >> >> Microsoft's Visual Source Safe has a very good source code merge
>> >facility
>> >> >> that prompts the user about which change they want to keep. This
>might
>> >be
>> >> >a
>> >> >> good idea for a future version of JFW.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Other problems will occur when our new scripts are very different
>from
>> >> >those
>> >> >> a user may have modified from an earlier version of JFW. In 3.31,
>all
>> >of
>> >> >> the Microsoft Office scripts have changed (for the better) very
>> >> >> dramatically. Any user who may have made a subtle change to the
>Word
>> >> >> scripts will cause a huge issue for software trying to differentiate
>> >and
>> >> >> then merge the change into a radically different function. usually,
>> >the
>> >> >> Source Safe user (mentioned above) will be making incremental and
>> >subtle
>> >> >> changes to be merged and, thus, this is not an issue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know that my own script changes (I'm not a professional scripter
>and
>> >all
>> >> >> of you can feel glad that my code does not ship with JFW) are a pain
>to
>> >> >copy
>> >> >> over each time I reinstall JFW (which is every time we do a build -
>28
>> >so
>> >> >> far for 3.31) so I am motivated to get a merge facility that is
>verbose
>> >> >> enough to handle scripts. When I look at all of the other things
>we'd
>> >> >like
>> >> >> to do with JFW, however, I don't see such a big effort happening in
>the
>> >> >> merge world too soon.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> cdh
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris Hofstader
>> >> >> Development Manager
>> >> >> Henter-Joyce, Inc.
>> >> >> (727) 803-8000
>> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:32 PM
>> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Merge?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HJ Development Manager wrote:
>> >> >> >The JAWS Merge does not merge script files.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Really? This comes as a bit of a surprise, since that's what I
>> >> >> thought the merge function was for. What *does* merge do? And,
>what
>> >> >> else does it not do?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >> Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - ICQ UIN: 736807
>> >> >> http://www.HookedOnThe.Net
>> >> >> ftp://ftp.HookedOnThe.Net
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >
>> >> Walter
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>> Walter
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