I am afraid I simply can not sit here and read any more and keep my
keyboard shut, so to speak.  Why should anyone pay the price for a program,
like JFW, and then, have to go in and completely reconfigure the entire
number pad to get it to speak correctly or in a manner that will not annoy
the purchaser every time he/she uses it?  

This is absolutely ridiculous, and it was made abundently clear to HJ
before this last release was released!  

Now, maybe some of you have nothing better to do with your time than to go
in and fix HJ's bugs, but I simply do not have the time nor the desire to
do that, and I know I am not alone here on this point.  

The comments I made before on this list were perhaps not conveyed
adequately, but I meant then, and still stand on my position, that HJ
should have caught many of these problems in-house before turning it over
to the beta testers on this list, and then, many of the problems and
concerns mentioned repeatedly on this list were either ignored or otherwise
not included in this last release, even after many of you put in
considerable effort in trying to help the process.  Instead, we are already
informed that a bug patch is forthcoming for the release they just released.  

Do not misunderstand.  I have been a strong supporter of JFW and HJ, and I
still am.  It is the best product of its kind on the market.  However, this
last series of betas and near releases has created a lot of confusion and
controversy, which could have been avoided by slowing down the process a
little and working the product through a few more itterations in-house and
then, with the HJ selected beta testers.  

Ron Milliman
At 09:45 PM 10/18/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>You don't have to do any script writing to take that numpad out of those
>numbers.  Here is how you do it.  It is tedious, but you must go through
>each number.
>
>1, press insert numrow+6 for config file,
>2, press shift+control+d for default,
>3, press alt+s for settings,
>4, press k for keyboard,
>5, press n  until you hear numbers, 
>6, start arrowing down to each number, 
>7, tab twice to change key, 
>8, press the space bar to change it, 
>9, Now, type in just the number, and press enter,
>10, keep this up until you have finished number 9,
>11, tab to ok,
>12, press alt+f4, twice,
>At one of those times, it will ask you if you want to save changes, then
>press enter on yes, and now you will only hear the numbers when you press
>the numlock, and start pressing numbers.
>At 12:22 AM 10/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>To answer your rudely worded question about what's wrong with hearing
>>"numpad" every time a key on the numpad is pressed, many of us like to
>>enter numbers with the numpad instead of the top row of the typing
>>keyboard. It is much quicker to varify what we're typing if we don't
>>have to hear "numpad" before every digit! Your post also makes the
>>rather strange  assumption that we are all intimately familiar with
>>scripts and how to change them. This may come as a shock to you, but
>>most of us are computer users, not computer programmers. I am very
>>grateful to the script writers on this list who have given a great
>>deal of help, realizing that most people have very little knoledge
>>about programming.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Steve Matzura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 3:49 PM
>>Subject: Re: jfw 3.31 final release!
>>
>>
>>And what on Earth is so wrong with this behavior, and why on Earth
>>would you consider it a bug?  If the script says SayString("NUMPAD")
>>then it's gonna say Numpad.  If you don't like it, then rip it out.
>>That's why they give you the source to the scripts in the first place.
>>
>>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:52:14 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Chris
>>>
>>>I also found the same things with jfw 33135.
>>>
>>>If you don't mind me asking how do you go about correcting the num
>>pad
>>>problem only for now since i only got jfw 3.30 with a new p2 w98
>>system
>>>early in june.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>Walter
>-
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