Dear All, I have a request: can we have different groups to share views. We can be critical friends to each others but it would be more productive for us if we have different groups, in the web site to share our views.
Regards Dhruv Sengupta The Livelihood School - EIRC, House number: 444, Road number: 4 A, Ashok Nagar, Ranchi - 2 Jharkhand - 834001 Tel: 0651-2241874, 09431707205 ----- Original Message ----- From: prabir chatterjee To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re: Facts on Dalit and Adivasi team Dear Venkitesh, Having lived in Jharkhand for a decade I have met Prof Munda. He is neither one-sided, nor a liar. He is an extremely popular academic person. You have said that Panos are trying to get ST certificates and someone else has said that Padmanabha Behera is giving false ST certificates. This is very wrong. But it was done by dishonest people who should be punished. Along with the Kui people, all Dalits, all Hindus, all Christians, all Muslims, all Oriyas, all Indians, all human beings should protest against corruption and against ministers who cheat poor people. But do not divide Kuis against Pano/ Pana harijans. That is what dishonest people want and which has been done in the past. Do not support violence in the name of teaching World Vision a lesson. If World Vision is making mistakes- (I know they have been criticized in South America in the past), that should not be a reason to think that all its staff are dishonest. Many who work for them are young people looking for jobs. It is important to record their faults and lodge a case or report it to the Government of Orissa. They can not receive foreign funds and work in a village without the state police knowing. A BJP alliance government is allowing them to work! Ministers may be corrupt in this government if they are letting an organization work despite problems that you suggest. But you should not burn their office. Nor should you think that all Hindus support Swamy Saraswati or all Christians support World Vision. It is not right to burn Catholic Churches to protest against World Vision. It would not be right to burn Ramakrishna Mission dispensaries or Mandirs just because one thinks ill of Swamy Laxman Saraswati. By the way, was Swamiji attacked. Possibly not. What exactly is the case- in which thana? Who was attacked? Who are accused? Who has been arrested? Why are the rioters not satisfied with the investigation or action of the police? The real issue is Poverty apparently. And greed. People who ask for reservation are either needy or else greedy. If there was no Poverty in Orissa there might still be greed. We should try to solve the Poverty and meanwhile also make sure that Hindus, Christians, Communists, Dalits, Tribals, Brahmins, doctors, learn not to be greedy. Prabir v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Prabhir The article is extremely one sided and blatantly pro Christian. Nor surprising since it is led by a Christian. The whole fact finding only focuses on the dalit Christians and does not even touch on hte concerns of the tribals!!! Why was the World Vision office destroyed. There is no answer. Why did the minister resign, again no answer. *The article does not even mention that Swami Swamy Laxmanananda Sarswati and his drivers were attacked, instead it goes on this anti VHP diatribe*,"* *There are allegations that were was instigation by VHP/RSS members under the > leadership of Swamy Laxmanananda Sarswati resulted into violence in Bramanigoan and other parts on 25 th December.** The issue here is very straightforward. It is of reservations for dalit christians... The Christian leaders want them to be include amongs the poorer tribals so that theey will enjoy the reservations. Obviously the Kui tribals will be adbversely affected. and this led to the violence. The fact finding says, *4. *There is a general view outside that this violence is connected to > the bandh called by Kui Samanvay Samithi on 25-26 th of December 07 to > protest the demand of Panos to be included in Scheduled tribe category. > But > in Bramanigoan, team found no such evidences to connect these two > issues. """""* ** *That is the mother of all lies. The fact finding does not even touch on this core issue.* *Here is an October 9th report from the Hindu:* *Communal tension in Kandhamal * http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/09/stories/2007100951340300.htm
