While agreeing with Mr. Kachhap that "no religion teaches hatred", nothing spreads hatred better than religion especially when it takes on the garb of Fascism. Since I have broken one of my rules, that is used a label, I must define what I mean as Fascism. Fascism simply tries to build unity through the Us vs Them paradigm. It is a very simple line of thought, one that appeals to the lowest and least sensitive of intelligences, thus guaranteeing numbers. The examples from history are too many but a few will bear enumeration: Nazi Germany, Stalinist Communism, Radical Islam, Rabid Americanism, ugly Hindutva and several brands of proselytising Christianity who are fighting for public space not only against other faiths but other forms of Christianity as well. It will do us well to know, identify and guard against these. PArtho Datta
kachhapbk2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [email protected], Partho Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I agree to what Mr. Partho Dutta says. This is a fruitless unending debate. Blaming a particular community without any indepth study and experience is WRONG. None of the religion teaches hatred and violence. I feel sorry that since there's no moderation on this JHARKHAND NETWORK people have written things which will hurt a persons sentiment, belief and faith. Instead of discussing what the administration has been doing in Orissa few members are writing things which is not expected on this forum. I seriously doubt their integrity. I'd request the moderator not to allow such posting to appear on this forum. I am proud to be a Tribal and I am also proud to be a Roman Catholic and so are my Hindu,Muslims, Sikh and Buddhist friends. Let's put in our rational thinking on this forum and make it a better place. B K Kachhap > The first casualty is truth. > What actually did happen? There seem to be as many versions as there are sides to this debate. > And please, could this discourse continue without mindless throwing of labels? > Partho Datta > > Saurabh Abhishek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uplifting the lives of unprivileged is great and noble thing to do, but I > have seen enough what > the missionaries exactly do. The truth is far from what they say. > "Uplifting" essentially means brainwashing and false promises most of the > times. > I saying this because I have seen this innumerable times. > I belong to place in remote Gumla, before the missionaries arrived there was > no animosity between in the > ppl atleast on religious grounds, nobody actually cared about the > religion.The religion was the way it should be, personal and practiced with > no fanaticism. Now the so called developement has made people to ask their > children to stay at home because its "their" festival not "ours". I am not > blaming any particular community but the for the animosity factor , yes I > blame the missionaries. > > I have seen those half educated chaps preaching that having "Prasad" from a > Hindu friend is a sin. > Sad to say but they are doing nothing but spreading religious hatred. > So, thats why I will end up saying any connection between missionaries and > developement is purely > coincidental. > > On Jan 9, 2008 12:34 PM, anuperickujur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > People who help others in lifting their own down-trodden lives cannot > > be blamed for creating such unnecessary tensions. The tribals who > > have been persecuted reside in places where there is very little > > means of having a fruitful living. People from the outside world come > > to help them move into places which they can never imagine of. The > > lives of many such innocent tribals have been bettered by such > > missionary activities. But on the contrary, the people with whom they > > are living among, on a day of joyous celebrations, clamp a shutdown > > on all festive activities. This is a violation of human rights, where > > the suffering people have not been allowed to express their feelings > > and desires. The shutdown was not a government order or any court > > ruling or the decision of a block officer. This was instigated on the > > mere information of a seer who proclaimed that he feared for his life > > on the day of Christmas. Such baseless testimonials hold no ground. > > And the people instead of applying their brains, go by their > > sentiments to create such unnecessary ruckus, disrupting life and > > daily commitments. Don't people of different communities in India > > celebrate Holi, Diwali, Id together? This is our unity in diversity. > > So why not celebrate Christmas together? > > Secondly, the people who are trying to uplift the lives of the not-so- > > fortunate are instigated through the acts of forced conversions. Let > > us recall that India is one of the countries where most of the poor > > live below the poverty level. The people need lives, so that their > > dreams can be fulfilled. But the orthodox thoughts of the old and the > > communalists want the poor to be in the state that they are so they > > cannot come up in thoughts, words and actions. The communalists know > > that if the people get better education and rise in their standards > > of living, their own personal interests will be hampered, as the now > > down-trodden will have better lives, think independently, not be > > dependent on the offerings of the landlords, and know the law better. > > But can we sacrifice the betterment of the people and the country for > > the petty selfish thoughts some black-hearted people. This is me is > > inexcusable. > > In fact, let us work together in our individual ways to better the > > society, and let each and every Indian grow, so that the country > > develops. Let us all be a missionary, with the mission to develop the > > people of the country. Let us forget that the word missionary is > > reserved only for religious people. No! Let us all be a light to each > > other, and let each one grow. For the growth of the people is the > > growth of the country. > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <Jharkhand% 40yahoogroups.co.in>, v > > <ahvenkitesh@> wrote: > > > > > > Missionary activties are responsible for disrupting previously > > cohesive and > > > harmonious communities. > > > I have sympathy for the poor tribals. None of the NGOs, > > government, media > > > has paid attention to their plight. If at all they have been > > branded as > > > Hindutva and demonized. > > > > > > Whereas Christians are portrayed as the persecutedvictims and given > > all the > > > sympathy when they are the real aggressors. > > > Wherever Christian missionaries have gone in this world ... they > > have > > > destroyed adn enslaved the native people. Africa, Americas, > > Aborigines of > > > Australia etc. So please do not believe tgheir human rights > > propaganda. > > > > > > Christians have Destroyed Various Ethnic Cultures of the World ... > > > www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php? > > type=ARTICLES&id=1130195242 > > > > > > Genocide of Natives in the Western Hemisphere, starting 1492 CE > > > www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm > > > > > >
