Don't underestimate clay. Clay holds water.

>From the perspective of a person who lives in the mining area - the mines
come and destroy the environment and give nothing back. The State and its
people don't even get any value apart from the ridiculously low royalty (Rs.
26 for a tonne of iron ore worth more than Rs. 2000 in the market - the
raising cost is never more than Rs. 200/tonne), providing exorbitant profits
to the miners. Also, mining destroys the forests and water sources, pollutes
rivers and brings in social and political disruption. Why should one welcome
it - specially when there is no direct benefit from it.

How much benefit have the tribals of Jharkhand got from TATAs? Of course it
has made a few families very rich and some very well off.

Nachiketa



On 1/15/08, Anand Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Yes so what is the use of those iron ores keeping them buried inside for
> the
> next 30 years and doing nothing? They are as good as clay.
>
> If you use them now, I am sure we are going to see some of the benefits
> coming out in the next 30 years time. Obviously, if you are proud enough
> to
> believe that those IRON ores are there to make each even every family of
> Jharkhand a rich by miles, then there is no such magic anywhere.
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 2:20 PM, Soumya Dev <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]<thetribaltribune%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > What is the use of the land after 30 years when the Iron ore is over?
> >
> > Anand Kumar < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <anandkr%40gmail.com><anandkr%40gmail.com>> 
> > wrote: Sahi Jawaab
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > It is perhaps because of such mindset that we are lagging behind. Grow
> up
> > guys. This is a basic rules that the powerfuls have ruled over the
> weaker
> > ones. Nobody can help you directly otherwise you are just asking for
> > another
> > round of reservation and that is so much clear by now, what a failed
> > concept
> > it has been.
> >
> > The industrial development has surely help people in the area. It takes
> > time
> > (read years) for the benefit to trickle down to the lowermost echelon of
> > society. Nobody can do a miracle. Have patience, trust and have a
> positive
> > outlook towards life. What is the use of Iron ore inside the land?
> >
> > Having this mindset is the real blame for such a pathetic state and
> > nothing
> > else.
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2008 11:41 AM, savita kispotta < [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]<savitakispotta%40yahoo.com><savitakispotta%40yahoo.com>>
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have a different opinion about Tata's or any such business houses
> > > which the locals claim to be SUCKING BLOOD.
> > >
> > > - Iron Ore or Coal mines or be is whatever natural resources - It was
> > > there to harness for EVERYBODY. Why did the LOCALS or other than
> Tata's
> > or
> > > Sterlite did not harness it??? One cannot blame the other person or
> > > organization for grabbing the opportunity if it existed & one did not
> > make
> > > use of that oportunity.
> > >
> > > - Business houses have muscle power - agreed, but there are some
> > > formalities, rules & regulations by which they acquire land or mines &
> > set
> > > up their business. I dont think that there is any set up done by Big
> > > business house without GOVERNMENT approvals. The GOVERNMENT which is
> > chosen
> > > by the LOCALS. If there is injustice, FIGHT the Government, LEARN how
> to
> > > choose a correct Government, revolt against the government - Why Blame
> > > Business Houses? Why keep crying about injustice?
> > >
> > > - Beggars are not Choosers. Its the benevolence of the business
> houses,
> > if
> > > they give something in return They DON'T HAVE TO because they pay
> heavy
> > > TAXES already to Government. Tell me what percentage of our earnings
> do
> > we
> > > give out as charity?? And how regularly, if at all we do part with a
> > small
> > > sum?
> > >
> > > - Bottom Line - No use ot blaming business houses. Its because of them
>
> > > that Indian has shown so much of progress over the last couple of
> years.
> > > From inception of life, the rule has been "Survival of the Fittest".
> > FIGHT,
> > > STRIVE, THINK, WORK HARD, COMPETE, if you really want to come up in
> > life.
> > >
> > > Stop the Blame Game. & Stop thinking that someone will come & make
> your
> > > life easier.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Partho Datta < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > <pdot52%40yahoo.com><pdot52%40yahoo.com><pdot52%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > That counts as a marketing failure on the part of the Orissa
> government.
> > > Partho Datta
> > >
> > > deba nayak <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > <debanayak%40yahoo.com><debanayak%40yahoo.com><debanayak%40yahoo.com>> 
> > > wrote: Rs. 1-lakh
> >
> > > car "Nano" of Tata Motors will provide a joyous ride to common man.
> > >
> > > But people of Orissa are literally taken for a ride.
> > >
> > > Exploiting Orissa's iron ore and chrome ore for a century Tata Steel
> has
> > > given little in return. Apart from a couple of plants here and there
> > with
> > > few social projects the House of Tata has ignored Orissa.
> > >
> > > But the group is lavishing West Bengal with a number of major
> industrial
> > > and huge social investments.
> > >
> > > Ratan Tata has listed a slew of investments his group would make in
> West
> > > Bengal on 11 January.
> > >
> > > Tata Steel is investing in coke and power plants in Haldia.
> > >
> > > TCS will be setting up a large facility in Calcutta, where as in
> Orissa
> > it
> > > has a small development centre.
> > >
> > > The "country's largest cancer hospital with "World class research and
> > > development" facilities would also be built in Calcutta, announced the
>
> > Steel
> > > Czar.
> > >
> > > In Orissa it has set up small hospitals in Joda and a few tiny health
> > > facilities in the mines and nearby plants.
> > >
> > > It acquired 4000 acres of land in 1996 at Gopalpur to set up a major
> > steel
> > > project.
> > >
> > > But it ditched the state and set up the cold rolling mill at
> Jamshedpur.
> > >
> > > Compelled to announce a Greenfield steel project at Kalinga Nagar due
> to
> > > threat of cancellation of iron ore lease, the project is yet to make
> any
> > > progress.
> > >
> > > Orissa has given every thing to Tatas and leaders of the state have
> gone
> > > out of the way to shower favors to the Steel Major.
> > >
> > > Tata receives hundreds of crores of rupees per annum by exporting
> > > /exploiting chorme ore and iron ore.
> > >
> > > Once the mineral is exhausted that area is left like abandoned filed
> > full
> > > of gaping holes.
> > >
> > > Mining areas of Gorumahisani and Badampahar bears the burnt of Tata is
> > an
> > > eye opener.
> > >
> > > With all the iron ore deposits exhausted the fields of both the areas
> > are
> > > abandoned without any trace of development leaving huge craters as
> their
> > > legacy.
> > >
> > > Now craters accumulate water, resulted in the breeding grounds for
> > > malaria, which has become scourge for the poor tribals.
> > >
> > > Tatas have never looked back to barren tracts of Gorumahisani and
> > > Badampahar and now it is one of the most deprived zones of the state.
> > >
> > > Similar will be fate of entire mineral bearing areas of Orissa, when
> > after
> > > 20 years all its chrome and iron ore will be exhausted , predict
> experts
> > of
> > > the industry.
> > >
> > > Earlier Orissa paid for the development of Jamshedpur and now experts
> > say
> > > the state will continue to pay for development of Calcutta.
> > >
> > > http://www.tathya.in/story.asp?sno=1547
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > "Everything can be represented as mathematically as you wish, for
> example,
> > d(sachin)/dt = zero"
> >
> > Regards
> > Anand
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > with regards,
> > soumya dev
> > Executive Editor
> > The Tribal Tribune
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "Everything can be represented as mathematically as you wish, for example,
> d(sachin)/dt = zero"
>
> Regards
> Anand
>
> [
>
> .
>
> 
>



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