Venkat wrote:


> Mishra Ish wrote: > Coversion is a protest, how does it concern you what 
> religion I follow?

This is another new definition. just now Cynthia wrote conversion was by 
heartful emotion. Another writes that it is a choice and Mahatma Gandhi called 
it a commerce, Swamy Vivekanada called it change of nationality . Now is your 
turn. So in this freedom of definitions, let me add mine.

Conversion is sellout of one's  soul. You asked, why it should concern me . It 
concerns me terribly when an alien , unknown  culture is thrust upon an 
unsuspecting people, who are illiterate, ignorant and innocent. In what way 
evangelism is better ? Let me highlight some points.

1. When America was thrown open to European Christians, what happened to the 35 
crores of mayan and incan native population ? Were they converted ? Nope. They 
were murdered within a century. All the 350 million people.

2. Who owns the vast lands in Africa ? What the Africans gained by conversion ? 
Only slavery !

3. In the American civil war, when slavery was abolished, did not the church 
stand behind the southerners, who wanted slavery to continue ?

4. Who was responsible for the destruction of one of the finest civilizations 
of the world- the Greek civilization ?

Conversion is much much more than a mere protest, a change of heart etc. It is 
simply capturing nations without bloodshed.

Venkat








Cynthia Stephen wrote:



Dear Prof. Murthy:

I do not "loathe" Hinduism, I wonder where you get this impression.  My effort 
is to correct the misconceptions that are being held, and spread,  by certain 
people either from being misinformed or with intentions to do so, on issues 
related to religious extremism. This is surely not to be counted as "loathing" 
Hinduism or any other religion for that matter. I firmly believe in keeping 
politics separate from religion.

With regard to your remark that >>>Unfortunately the religious politics in 
India spoiling the whole fabric of spirituality.

As long as Christianity and Islam treats Hinduism as caste system ridden and 
demonly, they may be treading on foolishness>>>>

I am sure all will agree that the anti-caste critique came first not from 
Christianity or Islam. It came from numerous poets and seers including the 
Bhakti poets, Basaveshwara, Sant Tuka, Kabirdas, and any number of people's 
poets.  And it is not Christians or Muslims who are criticising casteism or 
caste discrimination. That is being done by the masses who are choosing to 
forego the privilege of staying within Hinduism and facing discrimination in 
order to choose a life of relative freedom from discrimination in the less 
oppressive forms of religions they are exposed to - whether it is Islam, 
Christianity, Buddhism or any other.   Again, this is not a must - a religion 
is only a means to an end. Some may choose to do  without any religion. That is 
a matter of individual choice, and no one has any right to interfere with it.

I am puzzled as to what to make of your argument that people of all religions 
follow Vastu and Yoga - while one is a kind of superstitious practice linked to 
construction of buildings going by the name of science, the other is, at least 
in its simpler forms, a kind of physical exercise. What has this to do with the 
religion called Hinduism (or Vedic Brahminism)? And the dress patterns of women 
- these are lifestyles and cultural things. The point is neither here nor 
there. Actually, I think there is need to introspect about the meaning of the 
terms Humanism and freedom, in the context of the religious beliefs in a 
broader way, and I do agree that there is need to see the good - without being 
blind to the bad - in any belief system.


Cynthia Stephen
Independent Researcher and writer
Bangalore, India







Senthil wrote:



Dear Mishra,

The Maiosts themselves said that their local christian cadres were
involved in this under pressure from christian leaders..

The world vision employees were among those culprits caught by the
people..Because these news are not covered properly, most of the people are
misled..



Regards,
Senthil




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