> On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:07 PM, John Rose <john.r.r...@oracle.com> wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Andrew Haley <a...@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> Forgive me if I've missed something, but >> #ReflectiveAccessToNonExportedTypes does not deal with the need to >> make fields or methods accessible to the framework. That's what >> setAccessible is used for. It would certainly be nice for a >> framework to be able to say "make it accessible, but only to me." > > Saying setAccessible is like "borrowing" (without owner permission) a > key to one locked door, if a non-public method is like a locked door.
Not to sound like a broken record, but not all systems want the module to control its own security. They want an intermediary. And that's a perfectly fine and reasonable security model. > > Today's MethodHandles.Lookup object gives another way to open such > doors. But you have to obtain the lookup object from a party that already > has access rights. It is like the owner of a building (a class) giving a key > which opens all the doors in the building, or all the doors not marked > "Private". > > With both setA Methods and Lookups, once you have the key in hand, > you have to lock it up to prevent bad guys from stealing it from you. > And if you loan it out, you have to loan it to trustworthy parties. > > Somewhere in between the two (unrestricted "borrowing" vs. direct delegation > of original access rights) must be some better conventions for reflecting > into frameworks. > > — John -- Jason T. Greene WildFly Lead / JBoss EAP Platform Architect JBoss, a division of Red Hat