> On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:07 PM, John Rose <john.r.r...@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 14, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Andrew Haley <a...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Forgive me if I've missed something, but
>> #ReflectiveAccessToNonExportedTypes does not deal with the need to
>> make fields or methods accessible to the framework.  That's what
>> setAccessible is used for.  It would certainly be nice for a
>> framework to be able to say "make it accessible, but only to me."
> 
> Saying setAccessible is like "borrowing" (without owner permission) a
> key to one locked door, if a non-public method is like a locked door.

Not to sound like a broken record, but not all systems want the module to 
control its own security. They want an intermediary.

And that's a perfectly fine and reasonable security model.

> 
> Today's MethodHandles.Lookup object gives another way to open such
> doors.  But you have to obtain the lookup object from a party that already
> has access rights.  It is like the owner of a building (a class) giving a key
> which opens all the doors in the building, or all the doors not marked 
> "Private".
> 
> With both setA Methods and Lookups, once you have the key in hand,
> you have to lock it up to prevent bad guys from stealing it from you.
> And if you loan it out, you have to loan it to trustworthy parties.
> 
> Somewhere in between the two (unrestricted "borrowing" vs. direct delegation
> of original access rights) must be some better conventions for reflecting 
> into frameworks.
> 
> — John

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Jason T. Greene
WildFly Lead / JBoss EAP Platform Architect
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