Jan wrote: >>>please keep this compatible with single click and PickCallBack >>Single click should now call the PickCallBack > OK, > set picking ident > is the default.
It is the default ... and there currently is nothing else. >>>and give >>>a MessageCallBack which could be checked by a script (think about the >>> reverse cyclohexan tutorial e.g. 'show me what is trans to Br'). >>I do not understand what you mean. What type of MessageCallBack do you >> want? >> >> > like in RasMol, if I said: > set picking distance > Atom #1: [ARG]97:E.NH2 (1062) > Atom #2: [ARG]173:E.NH2 (1722) > Distance [ARG]97:E.NH2 - [ARG]173:E.NH2 = 19.211 Are you saying that you get all this text sent to you as a single string? When does it happen? As the atoms are picked? Or all at once in the end? > and according for > set picking angle > set picking torsion > set picking coord > > to get a console echo of what is picked (and the same is true for your > double click) is important, it is sometimes difficult to decide what > atom is double click - e.g. with cpk rendering). OK. There are also currently bugs in the code so that it sometimes returns the wrong atom. I have heard that Jmol is better than Chime in this area, but it still is not correct. >>>what should be added to Jmol are the RasMol and Chime commands >>> set picking atom >>> set picking group >>> set picking chain >>>which allow the single click selection toggle on the bases of atom, >>> group and chain selection, >> >>In general, I do not like the idea of a picking *mode* which changes >> the behavior of the selection mechanism based upon a script command. >> > I used this often, and toggle between atom and group. > >>I am thinking about mouse gestures which would allow one to make these >> types of selections at any time. I want you to be able to pick these things with just the mouse ... single click for atom, double click for group, triple click for chain. But I want you to do these things without going into a 'group mode'. In modern word processors (anything in the last +/-20 years) you do not go into 'word select mode' to select words instead of characters. >>>and modification by shift = add to, and Ctrl >>>= remove from selection, this is a very nice RasMol feature. >>> >> >>Shift + Left Click will be used for something related to selections. >> >>We cannot use CTRL Left Click because it conflicts with MacOSX >> > What is the Mac toggle clicked and add to already selected? I do not understand the distinction that you are making between 'adding to' a selection and 'removing from' a selection. When you are selecting multiple items doesn't the same mouse gesture generally 'toggle' the selection? >>>Especially in combination with >>> show selected groups >>> show selected atoms >>>(MessageCallBack) In response to 'show selected atoms', does MessageCallBack send the string exactly as RasMol would send it? What happens with the newline characters? >>What should this MessageCallBack look like? >> >> > like > set picking ident > + a selected or unselect > message would be OK because > show selected groups > show selected atoms > with every event would be a bit long. RasMol reports the number of > selected atoms which is not very informative. You need to tell me exactly what chime sends back. >>>I like the double click monitor commands very much, what I miss is the >>> MessageCallBack from them. >> >>Note that the double-click behavior may *change* ... once I understand >> the mouse selections and other mouse gestures that need to be made. >> >>Why do you want to know that the user has made a measurement? >> > The user wants to know whether he has clicked the right atom and in a > tutorial this could trigger events, eg. explain something about H-Bonds > if the user made an H-Bond measurement. > And it seems simple to me to implement some feedback. It might be easy for me to implement, but it will be painful for people to use. This whole 'callback' mechanism is terrible. It pushes JavaScript to the limits and it is always going to have bugs. There needs to be an event-notification mechanism, but it needs to be designed differently. > What I really want to see implemented is the > monitor ace301C.ch3 ace301D.ch3 > and get a message out of this. > But neither the abstract atom notation is supported in RasMol nor the > parsable MessageCallBack from this. OK Miguel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
