>
>>But except for the missing gnujaxp.jar (which I actually locally added in
>> the
>>Jmol.jar), we also had problems with testing for the availability of
>> JAXP...
>>which is not, but the exception thrown were not catched...
>>InstantiationException and ClassNotFoundException...
>
>
> This is  deja vu all over again, but Miguel explained that removing the
> XML parser was going to make  Jmol.jar smaller.

I did not say tha removing it would make it smaller.

I said that *adding* an XML parser would make it 230K *bigger*

>  The actual distribution of
> Jmol.jar V10 is not in fact smaller than all earlier versions.

It is not smaller because *no* verson of Jmol 10 *ever* included CML
support on anything other than the XML parser which was built into Java
1.4


> Now,
> adding  gnujaxp.jar
> will make it about 230K bigger.  and it means some people will have a
> customised version
> of  Jmol.jar into  which gnujaxp.jar  has been bundled.
>
> What is more pernicious is that on  OS X, gnujaxp.jar   appears to come
> from the system
> Java somewhere,

Yes, there is an XML parser included in Java 1.4 ... a product which is
approx 2.5 years old.

> But I have just had one OS X user report that his system
> behaves like Windows, ie gnujaxp.jar
> appears to be missing from his system somehow?

That is because he is running Java 1.3 ... a product which is
approximately 4 years old.

And a version on the Mac which is *not* supported by Jmol.

>  This variability worries me, and makes
> me feel that  gnujaxp.jar   should  be included on ALL released versions
> of  Jmol.jar.

?

> finally, if one is developing a Web page, and during this process, the
> Jmol.jar is
> updated on the server, it can be  FIENDISHLY difficult to update the
> cached browser version.
> Most browsers seem to so persistently cache the .jar archive
> that it can be
> very difficult to refresh it and hence persuade the browser to download a
> new version.

My experience is different.

It is clearly documented that you must exit all instances of the browser
when you change the applet on the server.

I have *never* had a problem with .jar files being out of date on the
server. I have *never* gone into my browser preferences and pressed 'clear
cache'.

Close all instances of the browser (like you are supposed to do) and
everything will be fine.


> does anyone have any good advice on how to reliably clear out cached
> versions of .jar files?
> At very least,  I find I have to quit the browser and restart
> it,

Yes, because that is what you are supposed to do.

> but each browser seems to have a different way of
> achieving this.  Is there a reliable
> formula?

Exiting all instances of the browser and restarting should be sufficient.


Miguel



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