Mauricio Carrillo Tripp wrote:

>     > 1) duplicate a selection an arbitrarily number of times based on
>     > different transformations (= rotation matrix + translation vector)
>     >
>     Yes, you would load the data twice:
>
>     load files "file1.xyz" "file1.xyz"
>
>     This gets you the duplicates. One is in frame 1, the other in frame 2.
>
>
> this means that if I just want to duplicate a small region of the model
> (one chain, or even just one residue or atom) I would have to load the 
> whole
> model again? I can see this could work, but when I have big proteins,
> or a significant number of duplicates (~60+), this is not a very practical
> approach.
>
> It would be a nice feature to have something like:
> duplicate (my_selection) {my_rotation_mtx} {my_trans_vec} 
> (with_respect_to) (where_to_put_it);
>
WAY too complicated. So you are saying you want to have 60+ duplications 
of a small subset of the model at different places but not the whole 
protein. Can you say more about why? Sounds a lot like symmetry 
operations. What are you really after?

Bob

> The optional fourth parameter could say if the transformation is
> with respect to the model's origin or any other specified center.
> The fifth optional parameter could say where to put the
> duplicate; 1.2,1.3,1.4,etc or 2.1,3.1,4.1,etc, or maybe just do it
> automatically incrementing those numbers...


>
> BTW, thanks Bob and Frieda, " zap;set echo top left;echo 
> Loading....;refresh;load xxxx.pdb"
> did the trick!
>
>
>
>
>     > 2) show and hide these duplicates. I know one can use "display/hide
>     > 'selection'", but how would this work with the duplicates?
>
>
>     If you now use
>
>     frame 0.0
>
>     You will both. Select them as individual models (*/1.1) (*2.1) and
>     translateSelected, rotateSelected, invertSelected, etc. Then show/hide
>     them as desired.
>
>     Some experimentation may be necessary.
>
>
>
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