But I would argue that CO2 is sp hybridized, and the six left-over p
orbitals form two orthogonal three-orbital pi sets. Isn't that necessary
from symmetry considerations?

Bob



On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Pshemak Maslak <p...@chem.psu.edu> wrote:

>  On 3/11/2013 2:18 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>
> Since when are they sp2 ? ;)
>
>  Since freshman chemistry covered hybridization?
>
> I am guessing that there is no simple fix...
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Pshemak Maslak <p...@chem.psu.edu> wrote:
>
>>  On 3/11/2013 12:58 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>>
>> Good catch, Michael. Yes, it's specifically a problem with "-sp3d" --
>> easily fixed.
>>
>> See http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/Jmol-13.zip and
>> http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol.zip
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> I have lcaocartoon-related questions. For CO2 (for example) the sp2 lone
>> pair lobes are shown as the sp lobes instead.  Similar outcome is observed
>> for other linear molecules. Is that a general limitation?
>>
>> I know that the cartoons lobes can be drawn and oriented  (per demand)
>> using "isosurface" command, but the lonepair dots are much harder if one
>> wants them to keep up with molecular rotations and not eclipse each other
>> at some orientations.
>>
>> Is there a simple way to deal with these issues?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Michael Evans <evan...@illinois.edu>wrote:
>>
>>>  Jmol'ers,
>>> I am having trouble using lcaocartoon in a very specific case. If you
>>> look on this page, the antibonding orbitals render fine:
>>>
>>>  http://butane.chem.illinois.edu/jsmoore/Experimental/DFE.html
>>>
>>>  However, on this updated version of the same page using either JSmol
>>> or Jmol 13.0.12, the last antibonding orbitals (C3-H6 and C2-H8) fail to
>>> render properly.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.metallacycle.com/lec/chem332/jmolpages/difluoroethane/?use=java
>>>
>>>  Those last antibonding orbitals use the "-sp3d" lobe, which appears
>>> not to render properly no matter what I try. I even tried back here with no
>>> success:
>>>
>>>  http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/new.htm
>>>
>>>  An sp3d lobe renders fine, but nothing happens when I try lcaocartoon
>>> create "-sp3d". Am I missing something?
>>>
>>>  Cheers, Mike
>>>
>>>  ---
>>> Michael Evans
>>> Department of Chemistry
>>> University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
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