My take of when Joni said "There's lots about the 60's that is not
remembered" refers to the whole drug thing- and then the conversation went
the way of Bird, Fred Neil, Tim Hardin... all in her mind, tremendously
creative souls, but lost, blowing their creativity, except Bird, to the
ravages of drugs.
 Also, due to Joni's age, the artists that perhaps made the biggest
impression on her WERE the Parkers, Birds, Mingus et al...  One must
remember that as talented and unique as Joni was when she first started
out, the Jimi's Bob's and the rest of the group were her contemporaries,
and in my opinion, and perhaps hers as well, she was light years ahead of
many of them.

Best,
Stephen in Vancouver
NP: new Bjork







Yeah Fred, I can't quite figure it out, either, except that maybe she was
TOO close to a lot of the making of it as it was happening.  She did bring
up how so many with promise threw it away because of drugs and said that
too
many thought they could handle drugs and still be creative but only Charlie
Parker could do that.  She also did mention Dylan in passing.  I can only
guess there is something more personal going on here with her.  She has
mentioned in interviews the past few years how rotten she was treated in
those days and how hard it was for her to make it.  She was a pioneer in
many ways, paving the road for those who followed her.  While I would not
disagree with anything she said about the 30s/40s, I can't take her too
seriously on this one!!  Kakki
> I'm glad you spoke up, Kakki. Joni is dead wrong on this one (30s/40s
> music=art, 60s=not). Including her own music, that of The Beatles, Jimi
> Hendrix, CSNY, James Taylor, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis,
Laura
> Nyro, Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, and many, many
more
> was an artistic achievement equal to any music before. Is it a kind of
> self-loathing snobbism on her part that makes her claim otherwise?

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