well, the solo album was horrible, i agree. but then again, she was being
victimized by another producer, phil ramone in this case, who wanted to turn
her into some kind of kristy mcnichols [sp?]. i agree that richard created
the ''carpenters sound'', but i think that he was also responsible for
cheesifying karen's talent. all those stupid tunes and those tv specials
with perry como [sp?]!!! there's a duet with ella fitzgerald [ironically,
from one of the tv specials] on this japanese release that i've been
listening to and it is sooooo clear that she'd outgrown the please mr.
postman stuff. richard was a good producer and not a bad pianist, but karen
was genius genius genius. only time could have told, though.
karen come back! on second thoughts, don't: i've read the monkey's paw.
wallyK

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de mack
watson-bush
Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Diciembre de 2001 06:18 p.m.
Para: joni
Asunto: Re: Q's greatest female singers njc


I don't think Karen would have been Karen without Richard.  He really did a
lot for her.  I, too, would have loved to have heard some more from her.
She did an album without Richard and even with that voice, it really was not
good.  So sad that she had to leave us the way that she did.

Mack


>
> where is karen? not within the top ten? i am listening to a new japanese
> release with very rare previously unreleased material and i am surprised
> that karen's brother, that un.speakable slave driver, could have prevailed
> over karen in that way. you should hear karen doing standards. the quality
> of her voice is so rich, so fresh yet so somber. someday she'll be
> appreciated for what she was: one of the best singers ever.
> karen, why didn't you live, baby, you'd be chubby, all right, and in the
> year 2001 that would have been such a non-issue. you'd be alive and
singing
> the standards and i would have married you. karen karen karen...
> wallyK

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