Debra wrote:

> Put a few more conservative state judges in, as Bush is currently trying
to do, and such cases may
> go farther. Even without the addition of Bush's conservative judges, a
> couple of cases got to the Supreme Court in the past few years, but the
> Supreme Court's decisions had the effect of upholding Roe v. Wade. One
> more conservative Supreme Court justice, and that would probably not be
> the case.

I don't know about that.  Conservative judges are not known for being
judicial activists, but rather for uphoding consitutional law rights.  As I
understand it (very simplisiticly I admit) Roe v. Wade tied in the right to
abortion to the 4th amendment and right to privacy.

> And, as I understand it, when there are so many contradictory laws that
> there's no clearcut direction, the Supreme Court would eventually accept
> a case so they could sort it all out. If their decision had the effect
> of not allowing abortions, I don't know if states could still have
> pro-choice laws. New York legalized abortions before Roe v Wade was
> decided and so before any federal laws regarding abortion were in place.

I think a number of states had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade and
some like California tightened up the state consitution after that decision
as insurance in the chance Roe v. Wade was ever overturned.

Where I start to have a problem with the rhetoric is when I hear people
start bashing and automatically lumping in ALL Christians and conservatives
universally as "extremists" and anti-choice and various other and sundry
terms with regard to this issue. It gives me the creeps and in more paranoid
moments makes me think that there are many in the U.S. who would like to
totally disenfranchise Christians and conservatives from any participation
and representation in government.  When it comes to government policies and
laws these groups have many other issues and concerns other than abortion.
It also seems that some of the disagreements have nothing to do with the
right to abortion per se, but rather to the taxpayer funding of abortions in
other countries, or whether 12 year old girls should have the right to have
an abortion without their parents' knowledge.  There are valid questions,
IMO, that have nothing to do with the right itself, yet they seemed to be
all lumped into an anti-choice, "extremist" category.

Kakki

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