So Clinton/Bore gave 650 million in bank loans to Enron. So the top two recipients of Enron PAC money (c'mon, can't we call them what they are-payoffs?) were Democrats. You're only making my point, Kakki, that the system as it stands is completely corrupted by moneyed interests, and there is very little difference between the two parties.
kakki wrote: > Here's some links about Clinton/Gore and the Democrats are Enron > for your perusal (and which appear to be from both leftist and "mainstream" > media) > > http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020408&c=1&s=greider > > http://www.unionleader.com/articles_show.html?article=10765 > > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_7142.html > > http://www.opensecrets.org/alerts/v6/enron_cong_house.asp > (kakki said) It's amazing to me that you two are so quick to make accusations yet apparently won't even read the link I posted from the National Review. http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york071002.asp I have been traveling for 3 days, so I have only now had a chance to read this. I didn't find it factual so much as dismissive and apologist. Democrats are asking Bush to release all of the records regarding the Harken affair. The article says, hey MANY are already available, so like Bush says, there is no 'there' there. Okay, if you say so. The article says Harken wanted Bush on their team because of his connections and his extensive knowledge of the oil and gas business. This despite the fact that he apparently was the only one in Texas who couldn't find any oil, and had not made any money doing so (not doing so?). Doesn't make sense. Unless connections = political grace, as in, your dad was president and all his friends are big oil guys. The article goes on to ask how Bush could have known about Harken's financial status because, although he was on the board, he was not on the executive board, so he USUALLY did not get the Weekly Flash Reports. Huh? If they said 'besides, he was in the mountains of Montana without a phone', I suppose this line of reasoning would make sense. The article goes on to say that even though it is illegal not to file two required forms within a specified period of time to report sale of your stock, and even though Bush did not file one of them for several months after the due date, it was the less important of the two, therefore it's cool, and Bush's statement that, uh, I never did figure out why that happened should be good enough. Fuzzy logic at best. The article also brings up the question of whether Bush might be implicated in insider trading regarding a possible sleight-of- hand maneuver by Harken and it's subsidiary Aloha Petroleum to hide 10 mil $ which, if true, would have enhanced Bush's personal wealth considerably. There is not enough public evidence to really know, the article says, then adds that, from what IS known, there's no reason to suspect anything fishy. Again, in my mind, I see one of Spock's eyebrows raising. Finally, the article says that although complete SEC documentation has not been made public (it's being blocked by the prez BTW) "it would not, in all likelihood, change the basic story." I'm not saying there is substance to the allegations. I do not deny that this may be a partisan attack. But articles such as this do little or nothing to clear up the issue. I hope folks will check out the link Kate sent regarding Cheney- (the most twisted looking individual I have ever seen, and I'm including Nixon). http://www.moveon.org/moveonbulletin/bulletin1.html CHENEY IN NUMBERS Cheney's 2000 income from Halliburton: $36,086,635 Increase in government contracts while Cheney led Halliburton: 91% Minimum size of "accounting irregularity" that occurred while Cheney was CEO: $100,000,000 (One hundred MILLION dollars) Number of the seven official US "State Sponsors of Terror" that Halliburton contracted with: 2 out of 7 Pages of Energy Plan documents Cheney refused to give congressional investigators: 13,500 Amount energy companies gave the Bush/Cheney presidential campaign: $1,800,000 RR Fun fact: Did you know that when the airports were locked down after 9/11, the bin laden family was in the US negotiating oil business, and Bush lifted the flight lockdown for them and for them only, so they could flee the country? The FBI, reportedly, was furious.
