kakki wrote:

> I don't see why this is an argument, colin.  If I witness someone on the
> street beating their child, it is something I am observing in three
> dimensional reality and not some construct that originated from within me.
> Yes, love and hate reside in us an individuals but either orientation can
> affect others outside of us or the "world at large."  The person beating the
> child will affect me and might provoke me to step in and stop it, or yell at
> the person, or call the police or evoke sadness and horror in me.  I can't
> imagine watching someone hurting someone else and then saying to myself not
> to recognize it as bad because it's all only within my own inner world
> reality.  It seems you have agreed before that actions or love/hate
> orientations arising from one can affect another, so we are ultimately
> saying the same thing, I think.
>
> Kakki

what you say above is very different from what you said below:

>
>
> > > I took this to mean that both love and hate exist in the world at large
> > > (excluding for a moment one's inner world,

My response was to that statement. of course one sees things all day everyday.
however, it is we who give what we see/experience meaning. it has none on it's
own.

In your statement, you said that love and hate exist in the world at large apart
from within oursleves. that is what i didsagree with. they both come form within
us.

And yes, I do believe that we each affect everyone else. Nothing happens is in a
vacumn. How we are within affects all others eventually.

>
> >
> > love and hate do not exist in the world at large. they exist within us.

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