In a message dated 1/4/2003 9:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> This can hardly be an  accident, and it smacks of craftsmanship rather than
> miraculous genius to me.

I would say that a person can have one or the other OR both. Only-Geniuses 
may be able to conceive unique concepts but can't translate it into 
action/results. And a good craftsman can do a good job with the results but 
their work is all derivative. Artists like Joni surely have the genius to 
create unique stuff and also she is blessed with the craftmanship to execute 
her ideas. I think the example of I Had A King shows clearly that she has 
both gifts.

>  Anyway, I hope I haven't killed this horse. Music
> and poetry derive so much from math and logic. Hard to believe Joni was a
> decimal in Ray's Dad's math class. :-)

Unfortunately, very few math teachers are successful in translating how math 
and mathmatical logic are fundamental in things like music, art, design, etc. 
Most of us go through school learning that math is only for working math 
problems. So Ray's Dad gets the blame in my book.

Bob

NP: Counting Crows, "Good Time"

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