Wally wrote - >>jesus never said that there was hell. there are so many things that jesus never said (as per the gospels) that i wonder where so many people get their ideas. hell is such a small thing! how could jesus in all his glory come to earth and die for such a meager invention of mediocre human minds. god is infinite, absolute and incomprehensibly loving. no crime, no sin, no offense can ever surpass the dimension of his unbound forgiveness. belief in hell contradicts belief in god. if there is hell, then god is human. there is no hell<<<
WHAT!!?? Are you kidding? Have you ever read the Bible?! Jesus talked about Hell *a lot* First off, he confronts the Devil himself in Luke 4, then he talks of the devil in John 8: 44 "Your father is the devil, and you do exactly what he wants. He has always been a murderer and a liar. There is nothing truthful about him. He speaks on his own, and everything he says is a lie. Not only is he a liar himself, but he also the father of all lies". About Hell: "..if you say someone is worthless, you are in danger of the fires of hell" - Matthew 5:22 "It is better to lose one part of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into Hell" - Matt 5:29 "don't be afraid of people. They can kill you, but they cannot harm your soul. Instead, you should fear God who can destroy both your body and soul in hell" - Matt 10:28 "..The rich man also died and was buried. He went to Hell, and was suffering terribly ... He said to Abraham, "have pity on me!" [...] Abraham said [...]"there is a deep ditch between us, and no one from either side may cross over" - Luke 16: 22 - "If your eye cause you to sin, get rid of it. You would be better off to go into God's Kingdom with only one eye than to have two eyes and be throw into hell. The worms there never die, and the fire never stops burning" - Mark 9:47 Shall I go on? Jesus talks about hell a lot in the gospels. Do you believe everything he says, or only some of it? You can't pick and choose. Either Jesus is the son of God and tells the WHOLE truth, or he is a liar. You can't say "oh, he wasn't being serious there". God is a god of love, yes, but he is also a god of justice. By the way, "fear of God" in the above passages to me means a healthy respect. WHy do you think Jesus came to earth to die for us if there was no hell, and we would all go to heaven anyway? Do you know why He died for us at Easter? I am sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense otherwise. Joseph. http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema?
