Hey Vince thanks for that link.  Besides the Iroquois fire, perhaps the fire that 
changed safety
the most here in Chicago, was the Our Lady of the Angels school fire.  That was my 
parish and I
know first hand how strict things were after that.  I am a little too young to have 
been in the
fire, but I lost a cousin and some neighbors in that disaster.  In fact I was VERY 
young, but the
trauma of that day stll evokes a memory in me, even as a toddler.  

And I still recall the rebuilding of the school, the only things that could burn in 
ther was our
paper.  We had fire drills every couple of weeks and you had better not even crack a 
smile during
that drill or those black veiled monsters would start swinging.  But still people 
continue to push
limits and come up weith new ways to put safety on the back burner.  Awareness it 
appears must
come periodically in the form of new disasters, and that's just sad.

BTW not to be picky, but the disaster in the Chicago nightclub did not involve a fire, 
just two
puffed up security guards using mace in close quarters and creating a stampede for the 
door.  And
a nightclub owner who may have opened illegally and been way over capacity.   One 
report said one
mother absolutely could not identify her son, with the exception of I believe a ring 
and an id. 
Thats's just disgusting!

Stay safe everyone!

Peace,
Susan

--- vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >You're right, Kakki, the only good thing that will come of this is the 
> >awareness it is bringing to fire safety issues. 
> >
> Short term, but not long term.  Human nature is what it is.  The worst 
> fire of this sort happened before Coconut Grove and what did people 
> learn?  The Iroquois Theater Fire killed maybe 600 children and as 
> always, dead stacked at the exits, people trampled, etc.  Just like the 
> Chicago nightclub fire that killed, what, 21 just a few days before the 
> RI fire?  Did the Chicago fire the week earlier make anyone wake up?
> 
> As long as there is a cheaper way to do it, it will be done.  And 
> people's safety will be jeopardized.  Human nature.  That is why so much 
> car safety equipment is not mandated.  Why a lot of things aren't done. 
>  Cost.
> 
> Vince
> 
> http://www.chipublib.org/004chicago/timeline/iroqfire.html
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