On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:
There is a sad story behind this. From day one, presets were designed to be
distributed. It was never the plan to have one central set of presets that
the JOSM team would maintain and everyone would follow that. The idea was
that interested users could make their own presets, and share them with
others. "Look I've got this cool preset for waterway mapping, just add URL X
to your config and you can use that!"
Actually I think you mix up your timeline here. The external presets came
much later, you can't really count the simple load a file method of early
implementation, as only a few experts knew how to use this.
That system was set up with the best intentions, and it continues to function
today - but nobody is actually interested in using it! Everybody just wants
the one, central, official group of presets and that's it. We do have a
handful of extra presets contributed by users but even those are hardly ever
used.
I would have already dropped a lot of internal preset parts and moved them
to external presets, but I know what comments I would get from all
sides when I really do that.
This is sad; it would be so much better if there was a culture in OSM where
people would mix and match, where they would say "I think Pieren is a good
guy, therefore I'll use his presets, plus the special set of model airplane
tagging presets from user HobbyFlyer3000".
But we can't do more than offer this - if people don't make use of it, then
what can we do?
The web-page sourced presets already improved the situation a lot. More
and more presets and styles are showing up and are also modified and
updated by others (and again one of the tasks I was blamed a lot for,
even from your side).
What we can do is improve integration of this stuff in JOSM if we find
ways to do so. It is still hidden too deep in the preferences.
Working together with the autors of other editors also would be a good
idea, but until today all such tries failed miserably.
Frederik
Maybe I'm a bit over-sensitive ATM, but on one hand you blame me that JOSM
depends too much on the server information and on the other hand you
praise exactly these feature and would like to have them extended?
Ciao
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