no problem brandon, i seems like, i just have to add margin-left and
margin-height properties. its all well, as long as there is some solution...
:)

On 6/26/07, Brandon Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry I thought you where looking for offsetWidth which is what outerWidth
method does.

--
Brandon Aaron

On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> thanks glen... but i don't completely agree, because technically,
> according to the box model, width does not include border, padding, margin
> etc.
> But the total box's width, (not the element's width property) accounts
> for width+border+padding+margin. This is how a box is seen by the browser
> AFAIK.
>
> So, it is understandable that jquery's width() method returns the
> elements width style alone . But why is dimension's plugin explicitly
> intended to give the width+padding+border without including the margin?
> maybe because that is what offsetWidth property returns and that is what
> outerWidth means probably... no idea. It would be great if someone knew the
> answer.
>
> Regardless, thank u very much for the calculation suggestion. it works..
> i used offsetWidth + margin-left + margin-right and it works like a charm.
> Dont know what will happen when percent values are specified though. got to
> try that out as well ;)
>
> -GTG
>
> On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > But margin shouldn't be included in width.
> > According to box model that is outside the box.
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html
> >
> > Hmm, is there something that computes it all?
> > http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/box_model/  <-- not helpful but cool to
> > play with.
> >
> > You could do it on your own, offset + margin-left + margin-right
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > hey, thanks for putting together a demo page in no time...
> > > Still, in your settings the margin is not included. When i include
> > > the margin, the outerWidth returns the result excluding the margin.
> > >
> > > :((
> > >
> > > - GTG
> > >
> > > On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.commadot.com/jquery/dimensions/
> > > > Im too slow. But I made a little test page to see what outputs
> > > > what.
> > > > Change the settings in firebug and click the box.
> > > >
> > > > Glen
> > > >
> > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks brandon... lemme try that now.... i will keep u posted on
> > > > > how it goes...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/26/07, Brandon Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You need to use the outerWidth and outerHeight methods of the
> > > > > > Dimensions plugin. The width and height just return the actual 
width and
> > > > > > height according to the box model.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Brandon Aaron
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks glen,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but dimensions also return the same result as does jquery's
> > > > > > > height() and width() method...
> > > > > > > I checked dimesion's source and it seems to delegate the
> > > > > > > call to jquery core's width() / height() method, if the call was 
not for
> > > > > > > document or window.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, still i am getting the width and  height without the
> > > > > > > margin... :(..
> > > > > > > Is there anything else i am missing here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you using the dimensions plugin?
> > > > > > > > It might be worth using.  Alot of plugins depend on it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Ganeshji Marwaha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > friends,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the process of developing this jCarouselLite plugin,
> > > > > > > > > i am facing a problem. When i retrieve the width or height of 
an element
> > > > > > > > > that has a margin associated with it, then the returned 
width/height does
> > > > > > > > > not take the margin into account.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me here?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 6/26/07, Dan G. Switzer, II < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  I'm having the same problem with my plug-in...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Dan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >   ------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *From:* jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Karl
> > > > > > > > > > Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > *To:* jquery-en@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [jQuery] Re: jCarouselLite - my first
> > > > > > > > > > plugin - anxiously awaiting comments
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm so sorry about that. Unfortunately, your guess is
> > > > > > > > > > as good as mine. I see that it is listed in the "Projects" 
list when I click
> > > > > > > > > > on the "Issues" link in the left-hand nav.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Probably your best bet is to Submit an "Issue" for it.
> > > > > > > > > > In the "Projects" select list, choose "jQuery Plugins 
Website." Mike
> > > > > > > > > > Hostetler, who is managing the plugins repository, is 
keeping an eye on this
> > > > > > > > > > list and fixing bugs as he has time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If anyone else has an idea for Ganeshji, please chime
> > > > > > > > > > in! :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --Karl
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > _________________
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karl Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > www.englishrules.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > www.learningjquery.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2007, at 1:11 AM, Ganeshji Marwaha wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  hi karl, i tried adding it to
> > > > > > > > > > http://jquery.com/plugins/ page. Everthing went thru
> > > > > > > > > > fine, but the plugin doesn't show up. Is there something 
that i am doing
> > > > > > > > > > wrong?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 6/25/07, *Karl Swedberg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > be sure to add it to http://jquery.com/plugins/(without the 
"docs."), too!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The "docs" plugin page is deprecated. (Not gone away,
> > > > > > > > > > just deprecated.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --Karl
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > _________________
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karl Swedberg
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > www.englishrules.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > www.learningjquery.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Mike Alsup wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just register and then you can add it yourself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > BTW, I like this plugin.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  How do i add this plugin to the jquery plugins page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > -GTG
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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