Ok. I messed around with sonitus eq for about 5 mins just to see how assignable controls worked, so haven't actually sat around with it and looked.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Belle Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:04 AM To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is in. They are actually the same. When you open up the eq in the inspector pane, you get 4 bands of parametric eq, but when you insert it as a plug-in you get 6 bands of parametric. But you need to use hotspot clicker, or my auto-hot scripts or ct to access the plug-in directly. You can actually see the numbers in there with your mouse cursor, but unless you know what goes with what, it's confusing. with a parametric you have gain cut, filter type, cue or width, and frequency to play with, a lot more complicated than a graphic, I always try to have people start out with a graphic to get started much simpler to get your head around. eAt 05:46 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote: >Would you use the track eq or use sonitus eq? > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of joe >Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:10 AM >To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio >is in. > > >Also Andy, don't get too caught up in the numbers, that comes later, >learn how to get the sound you like then worry about the maths of it >all, As Chriss says just experiment with a full range sound like a >complete mix and pull different frequencies in and out, you'll hear the >difference and then next time when you've a mix problem you'll have the >beginnings of the anser before you touch a thing. with sonar, import >some auido in to a track, then open up your track eq, then say set the >db amout to something quite high say plus 12 or minus 12 then move the >frequency around you'll soon hear what's going on. Joe > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]> >To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:01 AM >Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio >is in. > > > > No Andy, it's called ability, training and talent 'grin'. > > > > Just like people can see colors and differences, ;your ear can hear > > different frequencies, or some folks can. > > > > If you have any ability there, you can train ;your ears by practice > > to hear them. > > > > Working with a parametric and or graphic eq, you can find offending > > frequencies and taylor them to fit better, or enhance others to be > > more prominent, etc. > > > > This is what an engineer does, and your exactly right, making > > instruments and vocals sit in a mix with proper eq is one of the > > very fundamentals of getting a great sound. > > > > I'll give you a hint. > > > > Equalizers work better on cut than boost, that is they are better at > > pulling out too much of a bad frequency than they are at boosting > > not enough of frequencies you want. > > > > so when you are first using an eq, you should do as much as you can > > to eliminate the bad stuff. > > > > Try first with a simple tool like a 10 band graphic, rather than a > > parametric, parametrics can be tricky, and are more advanced, but > > take a broad band signal like a full mix or even just a vocal and > > pull > > > down different bands, and see what effect it has on them. > > > > here are more hints, and we'll ;use a vocal for an example because > > it's one of the most troublesome things to eq right. > > > > Most anything below 100 hertz on a vocal won't be heard, maybe some > > subtle harmonic re-enforcement but that's all, and probably a lot of > > noise down there, depending on your gear and room. > > > > From 100 to 350 are your low mids, the warmth in your vocal, but can > > also be where the mud is, so cutting this down can make your vocal > > stand out more, from 500 to 2k is the mid band, that's your > > telephone effect, but also some of your mid band clarity, and needs > > special attention. > > > > From 3k to 6 k is your vocal definition and clarity, but can also > > make it harsh, > > and also have some sibalance s sounds, especially around the 6k range, so > > using a d s compressor can help a lot, I like a bright vocal to stand out > > in a mix, but then when i get it bright enough, i get too much sibalance, > > so the d s procesing fixes it. > > > > An;ything above 8k is what we call air, or high shimmer, and can > > make a vocal sound bigger and more full, open, but can also add > > hiss, and also in > > > the lower range of the 8 to 10k is also where some s sibalance lives > > too, so care must be taken. > > > > A basic 10 band graphic eq will give you a basic handle on these > > frequencies and what they do, then ;you can get in to the wonder > > full world of parametric eq and deal with q or width, shelves, peak > > dip or band > > > pass, and high pass and low pass and all those goodies, you > > really get to do microscopic surgery then 'grin'. > > > > I of course am available for low priced friendly tutoring any time, > > I'm jus the guy for good value for not so deep pockets, and nothing > > beats years of experience and lots of great mixes under the belt. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 03:59 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote: > >>Hi. > >> > >>I am reading a book that mentions that different types of audio, > >>mainly musical instruments and vocals sit in a particular frequency > >>range on an eq band. My question is: How do you tell what the actual > >>frequency range of an audio clip is in? I.E. I drop an audio > >>clip/track into Sonar (8.5.3). Now, before I change the frequency > >>ranges on it, how can I tell what its actual range happens to be? Or > >>is this just some guesswork? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Find JSonar and Sonar FAQs, articles, guides and downloads at > >>jsonar.org. > >> > >>Jsonar mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://jsonar.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonar_jsonar.org > > > > > > > > > > WARNING!!! > > > > This email could contain innocent phrases which, if taken out of > > context, or read from an existing inclination to be hostile, or an > > overly politically correct world view could induce cursing, abusive > > language, or other indications of less than desirable behavior in a > > public venue. No ill will is intended. 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