True. Would you add all of the fx after getting the right "dry sound?" or
would you put fx down first? I.E. eq the tracks that need it first and then
add the fx or the other way around. I am gathering balance and clean up the
audio first.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chris Belle
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:19 AM
To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is
in.
Well good, keep up the good work.
It takes time to become a really good top flight engineer.
Forget the 90 day wonder recording school nonsense,
notice most of the most saut after mastering engineers are usually
not spring chickens.
Give your self 10 years,
you'll look back at this and smile.
There are just so many ways to use compressors and buses, and to
route things, and to use effects, painting a picture with sound.
YOu never stop learning, and technology is never ending.
At 05:44 AM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
>That's what the book I'm reading said too. Maybe I should be writing
>down notes as I go along.... It is quite a detailed book. Anybody have
>any ideas on what I can keep my notes in? That way they are all in the
>same place...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Chris Belle
>Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:01 AM
>To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
>Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio
>is in.
>
>
>No Andy, it's called ability, training and talent 'grin'.
>
>Just like people can see colors and differences, ;your ear can hear
>different frequencies, or some folks can.
>
>If you have any ability there, you can train ;your ears by practice to
>hear them.
>
>Working with a parametric and or graphic eq, you can find offending
>frequencies and taylor them to fit better, or enhance others to be more
>prominent, etc.
>
>This is what an engineer does, and your exactly right, making
>instruments and vocals sit in a mix with proper eq is one of the very
>fundamentals of getting a great sound.
>
>I'll give you a hint.
>
>Equalizers work better on cut than boost, that is they are better at
>pulling out too much of a bad frequency than they are at boosting not
>enough of frequencies you want.
>
>so when you are first using an eq, you should do as much as you can to
>eliminate the bad stuff.
>
>Try first with a simple tool like a 10 band graphic, rather than a
>parametric, parametrics can be tricky, and are more advanced, but take
>a broad band signal like a full mix or even just a vocal and pull down
>different bands, and see what effect it has on them.
>
>here are more hints, and we'll ;use a vocal for an example because it's
>one of the most troublesome things to eq right.
>
>Most anything below 100 hertz on a vocal won't be heard, maybe some
>subtle harmonic re-enforcement but that's all, and probably a lot of
>noise down there, depending on your gear and room.
>
> From 100 to 350 are your low mids, the warmth in your vocal, but can
>also be where the mud is, so cutting this down can make your vocal
>stand out more, from 500 to 2k is the mid band, that's your telephone
>effect, but also some of your mid band clarity, and needs special
>attention.
>
> From 3k to 6 k is your vocal definition and clarity, but can also
>make it harsh, and also have some sibalance s sounds, especially around
>the 6k range, so using a d s compressor can help a lot, I like a bright
>vocal to stand out in a mix, but then when i get it bright enough, i
>get too much sibalance, so the d s procesing fixes it.
>
>An;ything above 8k is what we call air, or high shimmer, and can make a
>vocal sound bigger and more full, open, but can also add hiss, and also
>in the lower range of the 8 to 10k is also where some s sibalance lives
>too, so care must be taken.
>
>A basic 10 band graphic eq will give you a basic handle on these
>frequencies and what they do, then ;you can get in to the wonder full
>world of parametric eq and deal with q or width, shelves, peak dip or
>band pass, and high pass and low pass and all those
>goodies, you really get to do microscopic surgery then 'grin'.
>
>I of course am available for low priced friendly tutoring any time, I'm
>jus the guy for good value for not so deep pockets, and nothing beats
>years of experience and lots of great mixes under the belt.
>
>
>
>
>
>At 03:59 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
> >Hi.
> >
> >I am reading a book that mentions that different types of audio,
> >mainly musical instruments and vocals sit in a particular frequency
> >range on an eq band. My question is: How do you tell what the actual
> >frequency range of an audio clip is in? I.E. I drop an audio
> >clip/track into Sonar (8.5.3). Now, before I change the frequency
> >ranges on it, how can I tell what its actual range happens to be? Or
> >is this just some guesswork?
> >
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