Absolutely, completely correct.

We migrated from C/CGI programming to JSP programming for the performance
benefits (2x-3x faster) and it's platform neutrality (compared to ISAPI or
ASP).

But, the <BEAN> tag solves an even bigger problem and provides even larger
benefits.  Separating presentation from logic makes development and
maintenance dramtically simpler.  Your programmers don't design and your
designers don't program!  Secondly, you soon receive the enormous benefits
of a resusable component architecture - faster development, bug reduction,
greater reliability, and lower maintenance costs.

I just wish Sun would finalize the damn spec.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nicolas Pujol
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 10:16 AM
> To:
> Subject: My view on JSP
>
>
> This is an attempt to raise design and higher level questions on
> the use of
> JSP pages and JavaBeans.
>
> I keep seeing people on this mailing list using all kind of convoluted
> coding with their JSP pages, particularly in the context of
> holding session.
> I would like to make a point. As far as I am concerned the beauty of JSP
> rests almost exclusively in the BEAN tag or more recently the USEBEAN tag.
> Apart from the that JSP is nothing more than a regular scripting language
> like ASP or Javascript and LiveConnect.
>
> I believe that as Java programmers we have to support the virtues of
> OOP/OOD. The Bean tag should be used over extensive scripting within the
> JSP. Using beans allows for easy maintenance of a page and more
> generally of
> a site. In addition, it allows for Web development teams to delegate more
> clearly their work into JavaBeans programmers (business logic) and Web
> Designers (web presentation). It is important to note that the two have to
> come together at some point. It is this "point of convergence"
> that needs to
> be analyzed and studied extensively by Web architects.
>
> Interestingly enough it appears that JSP and JavaBeans can work solely
> without the need for servlets. In short, servlets as such are really
> marginalized by JSP's. On the other hand, JSP pages are
> pre-servlets and are
> compiled to servlets by the JSP engine after all. In my mind JSPs simply
> facilitate the use and the coding of servlets.
>
> Please send me your remarks.
>
> Nicolas Pujol
> Waterstone Consulting
>
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