--- Walter Jerusalinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I Agree with Brian, You can do a good design or a
> wrong one both using model
> 1 or model 2
> Walter
>
...except that Brian is arguing the usefulness of
scriptlets vs. tags, not model 1 vs. model 2.
feeling anal,
Harris
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages
> specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brian Burridge
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 9:54 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Why Model 2?
> >
> >
> > In theory I completely agree with you. But, as we
> all know,
> > theory often differs
> > from reality. When I first looked into JSP,
> recommended it for
> > our company, and
> > then brought it onboard after getting the
> approval, I was leaning
> > toward the
> > model you have described. However, in my 5 years
> of web site
> > development, I have
> > never once been in a situation or an organization
> in which the
> > HTML designers
> > were different than the coders. I have always
> wanted that, but it
> > just hasn't
> > been practical. At present, we use nothing but
> scriplets. We do
> > have a database
> > been, with set and get methods, and we use session
> beans. We are
> > also developing
> > a few packages with some common methods, but in
> general, the
> > processing that
> > happens in each individual page, is unique to that
> page and
> > doesn't need to be
> > used anywhere else. Therefore, when I want to
> modify the logic,
> > it is far easier
> > and faster (which is what it is all about in all
> the environments
> > I've worked
> > in), to simply load the one jsp page that contains
> both the markup and the
> > logic. I can make all the changes in one location,
> republish, and
> > the server
> > does the rest (compiling, etc). We also try to
> build most of the
> > business rules
> > into the database, with triggers, etc.
> >
> > Now, as I said before, I am not against the model
> you described, because I
> > completely understand the circumstances in which
> it could be
> > used. I think the
> > important thing for everyone to realize, is no
> model is superior.
> > They are both
> > offered because they both have their pros and
> cons, and you as a
> > developer, in
> > your situation, have to determine which is best
> for you. One of
> > them may be the
> > ideal theory, but if that theory results in slower
> work production yet no
> > increase in quality or flexibility, then it is a
> poor theory.
> >
> > Brian N. Burridge
> > Web Specialist
> > Cox Target Media
> > http://www.burridge.net/jsp
> >
>
>
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