I agree that there is a long way to go with Java technologies, but these
statistics and your interpretation of them seem very misleading.
First, Looking at JWS as a gauge for how much Java is out there is
misleading. I would probably never use JWS as a commercial level web
server. I have only used it for testing technologies that have not been
commercially supported. Thus, in a survey I would expect to find very few
sites using JWS.
Second, all of the web servers listed can support Java plugins for servlets
and I think JSP.
So, I would not guess that only 0.05% of the market is using Java. I know
it is not like 50%,
but since this study says nothing more than what web server people use, who
knows how many of them use Java. I personally run Apache with JServ and
JSP plugins.
I think that mainstream web server development in Java is very close at
hand. (ok, time reference to the Internet maybe it is a long time, if a
year or something is a long time)
This thread of sites that use JSP show us that many commercial sites are
using JSP.
Since, JSP was just finalized recently I think that it is being adopted
very fast.
At 07:08 AM 8/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>As of this month, rhe netcraft site lists JavaWebServer (and some reference
>servers) as having the following market penetration:
>
>Web Server TOTAL com uk ca us mx gov gt
>============ ======= ======= ====== ===== ==== ==== ==== ===
>Apache 3928112 2151472 186528 25459 8804 6288 1397 128
>Microsoft-IIS 1552083 873198 49239 13091 9394 4972 1204 195
>Netscape-Enterprise 432481 267749 12280 5406 2003 754 717 14
>JavaWebServer 1719 999 74 34 7 0 0 1
>JRun 237 82 1 0 0 0 0 0
>
>Total Servers: 7,078,194
>
>JavaWebServer represents 0.02% of the market. We have a *long* way to go.
>Even with the JRun, ServletExec, etc. plugins, I doubt we are even close to
>0.05%.
>
>Mainstream webserver development in Java is probably a long way off.
>Hopefully, the strong interest in server-side Java for corporate Intranet
>development will continue to grow steadily. More examples of JSP and a bevy
>of reusable beans should sway even more corporate developers to the JSP
>fold.
>
>Source: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/Reports/9908/
>
>jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dave Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 5:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Any websites using JSP
>
>
>> These sites, and some of the others mentioned, appear to be "BroadVision"
>sites rather than JSP sites (see Mark Kolb's post). I notice that many of
>the URL's refer to "BV_SessionID". That seems to be a dead giveaway.
>Remember - the ".jsp" extension doesn't necessarily mean it is JavaServer
>Pages.
>>
>> Aside note: View source on http://www.hallmark.com. Try editing that by
>hand!
>>
>> Dave F.
>>
>> Mahesh Yadav wrote:
>>
>> > And Also the Following site uses
>> >
>> > www.hallmarkgreetings.com
>> > And
>> > www.hallmark.com
>> >
>> > uses the JSP
>> >
>> > > From: Srikala Golla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: Any websites using JSP
>> > > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:27:03 -0700
>> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >
>> > > checkout www.portera.com.
>> > >
>> > > srikala.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Anil K. Vijendran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:42 AM
>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Subject: Re: Any websites using JSP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > www.circuitcity.com uses .jsp files...
>> > >
>> > > John Dixon wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > www.pets.com
>> > > >
>> > > > pretty nice!
>> > > >
>> > > > JD
>> > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator
>> > > _________________________________
>> > > > Subject: Any websites using JSP
>> > > > Author: pankajg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Internet
>> > > > Date: 8/19/1999 4:29 PM
>> > > >
>> > > > I am a novice as far as JSP's are concerned. Are there any web sites
>> > > > which use JSP.
>> > > > That could be an indication of its popularity.
>> > > >
>> > > > regards
>> > > > Pankaj Grover
>> > > > INWW
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>>
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