I concur with Larry concerning the need for a good tutorial about "how to
find, research, configure, and install the
latest versions of JDK, JSDK, Apache, JServ, JSSI, and gnujsp and Jakarta".
Knowing what will be in a couple of books to be published, I wonder if any
will bother to address this issue/topic. Otherwise the books will be making
the assumption you have already fumbled your way through those steps and are
ready to write JSPs, or else that there are too many variations of engines
out there so they don't try to talk about any one of them. I think that if
no book covers this, that such a tutorial needs to be developed by someone
in the know.
Dan
> ----------
> From: Larry Fluckiger[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Larry Fluckiger
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: JSP Books
>
> David Geary wrote:
>
> > I am working on a JSP
> > book, and I would love to hear from members of this list privately via
> email
> > as to your experiences with JSP and what you would like to see covered
> in
> > the book.
>
> Let me state publicly, rather than privately, what I want to see in a JSP
> book. There are several examples on the net about how to write simple
> beans
> and use them with JSP. What I need help with is the next step. Like many
> JSP
> developers, I'm developing a web site to support customer login,
> customized
> customer portals, database access through JDBC, HTML forms for creating,
> displaying, and modifying database records, etc. I would love to have a
> book
> that could walk me through the whole process with examples.
>
> How is a clean way to manage editing and updating database records from an
> HTML form? I want to use the same JSP for creating, modifying, and
> possibly
> deleting database records. What is a good way to manage the current state
> as
> I re-traverse through the same page multiple times? How should I
> hierarchically organize my JavaBeans package files and my JSP directories?
> How do I handle data entry errors? Should I try to detect them on the
> client
> side or the server side? Should I display these errors in a separate
> window,
> or redisplay the page with error information stuck in it somehow? Does it
> make sense to use one central JSP as a state manager so that all page
> traversal is managed at one location rather than having all pages use
> direct
> links to other pages?
>
> As long as I'm wishing, here's one more. I understand that Apache is the
> most widely used web server. As someone new to web development, it took me
> too long to figure out how to find, research, configure, and install the
> latest versions of JDK, JSDK, Apache, JServ, JSSI, and gnujsp and Jakarta.
> It has been a beneficial experience to go through what I did, but it would
> have been nice to have a single source of information to walk me through
> the
> process.
>
> I realize that this field is progressing very quickly and that anyone
> currently using JSP should expect some bruises. The book I want to buy
> isn't
> one that just restates what I can already find in Sun's JavaServer Pages
> Developer's Guide, but one that helps me avoid the mistakes that each one
> of
> us is likely to make as we use JSP and JDBC to develop complete web
> applications.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Geary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: JSP Books
>
>
> As far as I know, there are currently no books in print. I am working on a
> JSP
> book, and I would love to hear from members of this list privately via
> email
> as to
> your experiences with JSP and what you would like to see covered in the
> book.
>
> My book will be published by Sun Microsystems Press and will be available
> in
> time
> for JavaOne 2000. I am also looking for power users who are interested in
> reviewing
> the book.
>
>
> david geary
>
> Phil wrote:
>
> > > Are there any books available on JSP?
> >
> > We know of no hardcopy texts dedicated to JSP. (If you hear of any,
> > please let us know.) Online tutorials and specifications may be all
> you'll
> > have to work with for now.
> >
> > Don't forget the fine servlet books such as Jason Hunter's book and
> > James Goodwill's text, Developing Java Servlets. JSPs are,
> fundamentally,
> > servlets.
> >
> > We'll be giving a copy of James Goodwill's text away at our public
> > service site and would love to put Jason's text up there too. If you
> want
> to
> > see our review of James' book, goto:
> >
> > http://www.the-wally-project.org/twp.jsp?cp=devbooksgoodwill
> >
> > I'll keep you posted.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
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