Hi Pete,
VAJ's 3.5 Enterprise Edition includes a WebSphere targeted EJB
environment. WebSphere is IBMs appserver. BEA also provide a VAJ
integration tool for Weblogic - their application server.
As for "Weblogic application server, for example provides a JSP implementation
which supports
HTTP and it's own proprietary t3 protocol".
This means that weblogic has provided a proprietary extension to access
JSPs as well as the standard protocol HTTP. This doesn't tie you to
Weblogic unless you require the use of the t3 protocol.
Hope this helps,
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Work: http://www.multitask.com.au
NetRexx: http://www.multitask.com.au/NetRexx.nsf
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Re: Visual Age For Java
Boy you throw a little stone into the pond and the watch the ripples grow.
The rational for my remarks are that I posted to a local java group and
asked which IDE would be the most suitable for JSP and servlet
development.
The group which will be remain anonymous is mainly comprised of
professionals posted their options. One such opinion said watch which IDE
you use, you don't want to be tied to a certain web server - meaning that
if
you create your web applications using a certain IDE you can only deploy
on
it's supported web server. This response was due to a previous post
suggesting Visual Age. Out of the book (Professional JSP) I quote
"Weblogic
application server, for example provides a JSP implementation which
supports
HTTP and it's own proprietary t3 protocol". Maybe I am misunderstanding
this
sentence and it's implications if any. Hell I thought that Visual Age uses
Weblogic or is it Websphere? I apologize for posting about a subject which
I
know little or nothing about. That is why listserves can be a great
learning
tool and clear up misconceptions such as mine. I will in the future
consider
the finality of the ominous send button and not speak so glibly.
Thanks -- Pete --
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheldon Wosnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Visual Age For Java
> Hugh,
>
> Sorry once again to inject some information into this thread. I guess I
feel
> justified since you are pointing right at my papers and referencing the
> tools I developed :-)
>
> While I agree with everything you say you are not completely correct.
>
> First, the Pro version ALSO supports the JSP and Servlet Test
Environments
> as the Enterprise. The difference is that in Pro there is no EJB
development
> support. The same Servlet and JSP debugging in Enterprise is ALSO
available
> in Pro.
>
> The Servlet Tester is a cool ***add on*** feature to make testing
servlets
a
> bit easier, capable of keeping sets of test cases and so on. You don't
need
> it, however, to develop, execute, test and debug servlets and JSP in the
> VA/Java environment, including both Enterprise and Pro, against the
> WebSphere servlet engine, Tomcat or any other servlet engine for that
> matter.
>
> As far as creating JSPs, although very basic, you can even use the
ScrapBook
> in VA/Java to author your pages and then serve them up as described
above.
I
> do this all the time using Tomcat and hence never need to actually leave
the
> IDE at all, unless I want to :-)
>
> - Sheldon
>
>
> >From: Hugh Willson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Visual Age For Java
> >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:35:16 -0500
> >
> >JBuilder is a great product, don't get me wrong :-) but you can
actually
> >use
> >whatever server you want with VisualAge for Java, including Tomcat.
Check
> >out:
> >
> > http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf/Data/Document2389
> >or
> > http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf/Data/Document2390
> >
> >VisualAge for Java is just an IDE, it's not necessarily tied to a
specific
> >server.
> >IBM wants you to use their application server WebSphere, so they bundle
the
> >WebSphere Test Environment with the Enterprise Edition of VisualAge for
> >Java 3.5
> >This is basically a local scaled down copy of WebSphere which can be
used
> >for
> >testing servlets, JSP's, EJB's, etc ... If you don't have the
Enterprise
> >version,
> >you can download their free product ServletTester 1.0 for testing
servlets
> >and
> >JSP's.
> >
> >For JSP creating, IBM recommends a second product called WebSphere
Studio
> >(of
> >course they would recommend *another* product.) WebSphere Studio has a
JSP
> >editor
> >built in, which supports syntax highlighting, instant previewing, etc
...
> >It's not
> >really necessary, but I thought I would mention it.
> >
> >To sum up, your best bet is to keep on eye on IBM's VisualAge for Java
> >Developer
> >Domain. (http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf) They have all sorts of
> >info that
> >you will find helpful.
> >
> >octalpus.
> >
> >
> >Pete Ehli wrote:
> >
> > > Pretty sure you are now tied to weblogic or whatever server visual
age
> >uses
> > > and tomcat is not an option with this ide. You'll find out. Should
of
> >used
> > > JBuilder professional -- better docs, better ide and cheaper also it
> >uses
> > > tomcat as it's server.
> > > Good Luck.
> > > -- Pete --
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bhavesh Vakil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 5:06 AM
> > > Subject: Visual Age For Java
> > >
> > > > Hi to all,
> > > >
> > > > I just install Visual Age for Java (ver 3.5) - Enterprise Edition.
How
> >I
> > > > create JSP pages in this IDE. Servlet creation wizard is possible.
In
> > > > documentation they mention JSP support is also there.
> > > >
> > > > In document they mention I have to inherit PageListServlet. Where
I
> >found
> > > > this servlet and how to inherit this servlet.
> > > >
> > > > If anybody work on this IDE then pl help me. how I use JSP page in
> >this
> > > IDE.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bhavesh.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _________________________________________________________
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