Well, I guess my intended 'joke' was taken too seriously.

So then, on a serious note, I agree with Robert in that $$$ isn't
everything.  I, unfortunately, have been involved in a project where all the
$$$ money in the world couldn't have helped meet the project's deadline
because the sales rep sold a product that didn't exist!, so we had to create
one, along with the tools to make and support the product!

Other projects that I've seen were 'doomed' from the get go because of not
enough money and not enough man-power combined with an impossible deadline,
forcing the engineers to do ungodly hours of overtime, and then when the
stuff finally got done, the customer went around and decided to change their
whole website, so the engineers had to re-do the whole thing!

These are just some of my horror stories, which, I'm sad to say, is not
abnormal as it should be.



-----Original Message-----
From: robert young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?


uh, NO.  you do this stuff long enough, you get to the
point where being provided with the proper tools to
do the job is more important than the $$$.  mostly,
without the proper tools, the projects don't get done.
takes too long to get anything done, and then half-a**ed.
no time left to spend all those $$$.  soon enough, that
gets irritating.  if $$$ were the only issue, be a salesman.
lots of $$$ and no discernable skill demanded.

robert young

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hung Yee
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?
>
>
> Re: "... BUT is WS so bad that you would turn down a position with a place
> that used it
> exclusively, along with VAJ??"
>
> Well, I guess that depends on how much they're willing to pay you, right?
> :=)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JSP Engine/Application Server is the best?
>
>
> > WebSphere..bah..they are behind the times. Being that IBM is so
> active in
> > the Java community I am really surprised their app server is such
> > a beast to
> > work with and does not yet support Servlet 2.2/JSP 1.1 (unless a
> > new version
> > came out recently that does). I would think they would be up on
> top of the
> > list of J2EE supporters.
> >
>
> according to the ibm site, fixpack 2 (circa 1/5/01) supports 2.2/1.1.  BUT
> is
> WS so bad that you would turn down a position with a place that used it
> exclusively, along with VAJ??
>
> thanx,
> robert young
>
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