I actually don't see a problem with removing apt-get upgrade, but what
apt-get update? It's only 20s user time according to the original post. For
stale cloud images, local provider and manual, it's just a no brained.

Marco
On Jul 1, 2014 4:04 PM, "David Britton" <david.brit...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Matt Bruzek <matthew.bru...@canonical.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Andrew,
>>
>> I ran into a problem when Juju was no longer calling "apt-get update".  I
>> filed bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1336353
>>
>>
> Agreed -- I've fixed this "problem" multiple times in charms by making the
> first step apt-get upgrade.  Which always seemed a bit wasteful to me. :)
>
> It happens more on the local provider since those images are copied from
> templates which are not rebuilt until you remove them (do lxc-ls --fancy to
> see them).  So, the templates package cache goes out of date, and your
> cloned machine also goes out of date.
>
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