On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Nate Finch <nate.fi...@canonical.com>
wrote:

> Or maybe we should just code teardown so that if setup isn't  called, we
> don't do teardown either.  Lots of times I see people say "just include
> basesuite for X method" and since I don't need whatever its setup does, I
> don't call it in my setup  I don't think that's a programmer error, per se.
>

That's cavalier at best, isn't it? If I see an embedded test suite I expect
to be able to use its full capabilities.

It's upsetting to discover that your test modifications don't work right
because someone didn't set the base suite up; to discover that they didn't
set the base suite up *on purpose* adds significant insult to the
injury. If you don't need it, don't embed it; if you do need it, please use
it properly.

Cheers
William


>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM roger peppe <rogpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't be hard to write some code (using go/types) that
>> automatically checks
>> for these invariants.
>>
>>
>> On 15 July 2015 at 07:05, John Meinel <j...@arbash-meinel.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Bogdan Teleaga
>> > <btele...@cloudbasesolutions.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello everybody,
>> >>
>> >> Lately I've been noticing a couple of failures regarding a new testing
>> >> feature introduced on windows.
>> >>
>> >> Without going into implementation details too deep the main idea is
>> that
>> >> whenever a new suite is created
>> >> that inherits from a base suite and a SetUpX function is defined, it
>> needs
>> >> to call the SetUpX function of the
>> >> base suite. The main reason would be that if that's not done we will
>> not
>> >> do set up for any test, but we will do
>> >> a tear down. To some extent it might be worth it to add some
>> annotations
>> >> to the failure message, since it might
>> >> come up more often and it is not immideately obvious why.
>> >
>> >
>> > That's certainly an expectation of any sort of function that a type
>> > overloads from an embedded type. If people are overriding SetUp and not
>> > calling the embedded SetUp that's going to cause all sorts of bugs (we
>> do
>> > test suite isolation, logging changes, HOME directory setup in base
>> types).
>> > I'm actually surprised that things worked if people are doing so. I
>> guess
>> > some things like Isolation are things you don't notice until late,
>> because
>> > you end up with files littered where they shouldn't be.
>> >
>> > John
>> > =:->
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The bugs caused by this so far are:
>> >> - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1474382
>> >> - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1471941
>> >>
>> >> Another issue is that a recent bugfix stopped CentOS completely from
>> >> working.
>> >> The series could not be detected anymore because the map was changed
>> *and*
>> >> the test that
>> >> was using actual data from /etc/os-release was modified to mirror this
>> >> change. Until we get the CI
>> >> for CentOS up and running, but even as a general thing for that matter,
>> >> please consider the old
>> >> content of the tests and their intention before modyfing them to fit
>> the
>> >> changes in the code.
>> >>
>> >> For more details on the CentOS bug:
>> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1470150
>> >>
>> >> And that would be all for now, I'll let you get back to the other
>> hundred
>> >> emails.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bogdan
>> >>
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