On 06/04/16 23:13, Nick Veitch wrote: > Sure, I am just concerned about a proliferation of commands to do the > same (ultimately) task > > destroy-controller
The most correct way to take down a controller. > kill-controller The OMG it is broken, please do as much as you can and I know I'm going to have to manually check any resources left around that it couldn't clean up. > forget/purge-controller Remove local references to the controller. Not really the same things at all. Tim > > > > On 6 April 2016 at 11:59, Horacio Duran <horacio.du...@canonical.com > <mailto:horacio.du...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > The issue I see with that approach is that in that case > kill-controller might be doing less than you expect instead of more, > suppose the controller is having transient issues and kill > controller cannot reach the cloud for deletion, this would forget > the controller and leave it in the cloud, forget-controller instead > tells us very clearly what is going to happen, the change is going > to be local and not affect the controller. > My 2c > > > On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, Nick Veitch <nick.vei...@canonical.com > <mailto:nick.vei...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > just my tuppence > > instead of having another command, can't we just add this as an > option to kill-controller? > > juju kill-controller --cleanup <controller> > > > > On 6 April 2016 at 11:05, Horacio Duran > <horacio.du...@canonical.com> wrote: > > > I might be biased by years of apt-get but purge makes me > think that you are going to do what kill is supposed to do, > forget sound more aligned whit what you are really aiming to. > > On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, Andrew Wilkins > <andrew.wilk...@canonical.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:29 AM Cheryl Jennings > <cheryl.jenni...@canonical.com> wrote: > > Relevant bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1553059 > > We should provide a way to clean up controllers > without making the user manually edit juju's files. > > > Unless anyone objects, or has a better spelling, I will > be adding a command to do this: > > juju purge-controller <controller-name> > > The command will require a "-y" or prompt for > confirmation, like kill-controller. It will not attempt > to destroy the controller, it will just remove the > details of it from the client. > > (Alternative suggestion for spelling: "juju > forget-controller". Purge-controller may suggest that > we're purging a controller of its contents, rather than > purging the controller from the client?) > > Cheers, > Andrew > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Nate Finch > <nate.fi...@canonical.com> wrote: > > This just happened to me, too. Kill-controller > needs to work if at all possible. That's the > whole point. And yes, users may not hit > specific problems, but devs do, and that wastes > our time trying to figure out how to manually > clean up the garbage. > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM Rick Harding > <rick.hard...@canonical.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 6:56 PM Andrew > Wilkins <andrew.wilk...@canonical.com> wrote: > > In a non-beta release we would make sure > that the config changes aren't backwards > incompatible. > > > I think this is the key thing. I think that > kill-controller is an exception to this > rule. I think we should always at least give > the user the ability to remove their stuff > and start over with the new alpha/beta/rc > release. I'd like to ask us to explore > making kill-controller an exception to this > policy and that if tests prove we can't > bootstrap on one beta and kill with trunk > that it's a blocking bug for us. > -- > Juju-dev mailing list > Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev > > > -- > Juju-dev mailing list > Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev > > > > -- > Juju-dev mailing list > Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev > > > > > -- > Nick Veitch, > CDO Documentation > Canonical > > > > > -- > Nick Veitch, > CDO Documentation > Canonical > > -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev
